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“Recollections may vary”. Harry and Meghan (again - I know!)

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MawBe Thu 19-Aug-21 07:36:38

This may be a pot shot too far, now they seem to be including the Queen in their self- righteous whingeing.
(Not that I am biased)
Apparently Duke and Duchess of Sussex believe the Queen failed to take “full ownership” of the race allegations made in their interview with Oprah Winfrey, according to the authors of the unauthorised biography Finding Freedom.
A “friend of the couple” (unnamed, of course) has apparently told Omid Scobie and Carolyn Durand that the Queen’s lack of action had prevented the Duke and Duchess from moving on from the claims.
The source also suggested that the Queen’s assertion that “recollections may vary” had not gone down well.
(It did however rank IMHO as one of HM’s all-time greatest bons mots )
The Queen has until now been one of the only senior members of the Royal family to escape the Sussexes’ criticism, but this new epilogue to Finding Freedom, published in People magazine in the US, suggests that the Duke and Duchess feel frustrated that the Duke’s grandmother did not follow through with her promise to address their concerns.
It says: “The Queen’s ‘recollections may vary’ comment ‘did not go unnoticed’ by the couple, who a close source said were ‘not surprised’ that full ownership was not taken
Just one question, if this book is “unauthorised”, does it or does it not reflect their views? Or is it an example of letting somebody else put words in their mouths so that they can deny them afterwards if necessary? All these “unnamed friends,” and “close sources” - aye, right.

Anniebach Sat 25-Sept-21 09:14:55

Agree lemsip , so many things which are worthy of a discussion

lemsip Sat 25-Sept-21 09:09:56

shame all people are talking about is the mustard when so much more interesting things about Prince Phillip were told

Anniebach Sat 25-Sept-21 09:01:09

Big fuss for two people, one has written a book and one served in the army for a few years.

maddyone Sat 25-Sept-21 08:52:47

I don't know. They were shown meeting the Mayor and other dignitaries, visiting the Nine 11 site and photographed with the dignitaries, visiting a school and other places etc. Just like a royal tour.

Anniebach Sat 25-Sept-21 08:42:39

Are crowds lining the streets ?

maddyone Sat 25-Sept-21 08:27:46

Harry and Meghan appear to be doing a royal tour of New York according to the news.

Josianne Sat 25-Sept-21 07:07:01

Callistemon

Actually, having squirted mustard from one of those Colman's old-fashioned tubes, one could not exert enough force for the mustard to reach the ceiling.

It must be a family myth!

As I understood it they said PP put the squeezy bottle in their hands and he then clapped their hands together hard with his own hands. The stuff shot out to the ceiling.
What didn't ring true was that PW said it was when they were cooking barbecues? Who cooks bsrbecues indoors, unless it was under a kind of outdoor shelter?

Whatever, I think messing with food is gross!

Calendargirl Sat 25-Sept-21 06:51:34

Well, whatever the details, the ceiling still ended up with mustard over it, someone would have to clean it up even if a stain remained.

Glad the Royals don’t holiday in my house, I have enough cleaning without tackling mustard covered ceilings.

Sounded rather juvenile and a waste of mustard.

Anniebach Fri 24-Sept-21 21:58:12

grany is not correct, they did not say ‘he taught us to Squirt mustard on the ceiling* .

Callistemon Fri 24-Sept-21 21:49:58

Actually, having squirted mustard from one of those Colman's old-fashioned tubes, one could not exert enough force for the mustard to reach the ceiling.

It must be a family myth!

Callistemon Fri 24-Sept-21 21:46:21

what jolly fun especially as the servants would have to clean it all off after them

We just get the room redecorated

Josianne Fri 24-Sept-21 21:19:40

Grany

Fancy Wills says GD taught them to squirt mustard on the ceiling what jolly fun especially as the servants would have to clean it all off after them. Not that I've seen this RF talk about PP just on twitter.

Grany is actually correct on this one.
Zara and Peter confirmed it too.

lemongrove Fri 24-Sept-21 20:57:27

It certainly is Callistemon.....many a time I have hurled a vase down the staircase at Lemongrove Manor just for the hell of it ( or at the retreating back of Lord L) secure in the knowledge that old Dudders ( ancient family retainer) will have to go for the brush and pan.

Callistemon Fri 24-Sept-21 20:28:31

varian

Titled and entitled folk don not generally have to clean up their own mess.

No, it is so liberating!

varian Fri 24-Sept-21 19:27:55

Titled and entitled folk don not generally have to clean up their own mess.

Anniebach Fri 24-Sept-21 18:49:59

Yes they did, they said he played a joke with the mustard, they
did not say ‘he taught them to squirt mustard on the ceiling’

Calendargirl Fri 24-Sept-21 18:36:28

Anniebach

grany your post Sept.21 is proof that one can so easily find lies on Twitter.

To be fair to Grany, William, Peter Phillips and Zara all spoke about the squashing of the mustard tubes, resulting in messy ceilings. I, too, mused on who cleaned them afterwards, not Prince Philip I suspect.

Anniebach Fri 24-Sept-21 18:06:04

grany your post Sept.21 is proof that one can so easily find lies on Twitter.

JenniferEccles Thu 23-Sept-21 15:20:39

Something tells me Prince Philip would most certainly not have used the word adorable to describe Meghan!

I suspect it would be unprintable!

NotSpaghetti Thu 23-Sept-21 15:06:34

"Adorable" is barely a "grown up" word.

Made me chuckle though.

Grany Thu 23-Sept-21 15:02:53

Fancy Wills says GD taught them to squirt mustard on the ceiling what jolly fun especially as the servants would have to clean it all off after them. Not that I've seen this RF talk about PP just on twitter.

Callistemon Thu 23-Sept-21 14:55:58

SueDonim

Omg, if any of my GC ever describe me as adorable I’d probably slap ‘em round the face with a wet fish! How patronising!

SueDonim ?

Babies and small children can be adorable (sometimes) but not adults and certainly not grandparents!!

Josianne Thu 23-Sept-21 14:53:30

I'm sad, yes I know, but I found this is the M & H book.
In fact, Markle found this texting etiquette of Harry's “funny and adorable, just like the prince himself”.
Something tells me she also described The Queen as "adorable" when asked in the engagement interview, ir even the Oprah interview?
Obviously a favourite word of Meghan's as you say lemsip.
My puppy is "adorable" when I have him under control at my heels.

Anniebach Thu 23-Sept-21 14:47:50

It was an opportunity to get on tv , he would say anything

Smileless2012 Thu 23-Sept-21 14:31:59

SueDonimgrin