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The Anger of Parliament (temporary)

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lemongrove Fri 20-Aug-21 12:59:45

That’s a whole other thread PippaZ for discussion of the police bill.

lemongrove Fri 20-Aug-21 12:58:16

Nothing more can be done than is being doing, although I see Biden is stung by the criticism and is sending more planes to get people out, which we are also doing.
Meryl what you say is very true, China and Russia will be eager to mine all possibilities for themselves there.

PippaZ Fri 20-Aug-21 12:55:11

There was a comment just before the thread was closed for inspection, saying that we should not have an enquiry while (I think it was) the evacuations are going on.

The enquiry must happen now. We have had too many request for enquiries put on the back burner but the lying continues.

I have been reading the Unlock Democracy email:

It’s been revealed that the Home Secretary, Priti Patel, failed to consult the Police Federation on her controversial plans to limit peaceful protests.

That’s despite Priti Patel telling the House of Commons that, “I have worked closely with the Police Federation in developing this bill.”

This refers to the Bill Patel is bringing in against peaceful protest. How have we got to this point? If this is passed and we wanted to protest against the governments handling of the evacuation we would not be able to.

How much more do we want to risk our democracy? We need to look into these lies now.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 20-Aug-21 12:54:12

The Taliban are armed with armoured vehicles and tanks discarded by US Troops
President Biden solely to blame, for this schoolboy error, which could end with U.K./US soldiers being injured/killed thanks to POTUS incompetence.

All MPs are rightly angry, the U.K. advised U.K. passport holders/nationals to leave Afghanistan back in April.

The Embassy in Kabul has been issuing visas since then, and is continuing to do
so from the airport.

U.K. Troops are patrolling outside the airport and helping folks into the compound in order for them to be processed and evacuated.

Not sure what else can be done under the current circumstances?

Casdon Fri 20-Aug-21 12:53:44

This, from today’s BBC bulletin:

‘And Colonel Richard Kemp, a former commander of British forces in Afghanistan, told the BBC News Channel the foreign secretary's decision not to call his Afghan counterpart "typifies" a "ministerial lack of urgency" over the 20-year conflict in the country.’

Raab has a lot to answer for, the serving forces commanders are unable to comment on political decisions so it’s good that Col. Kemp spoke out.

MerylStreep Fri 20-Aug-21 12:48:22

With reference to China. Biden has handed China the pot of gold. Afghanistan has ( probable) the richest deposits of lithium in the world. What do we need lithium for: batteries, and I don’t mean the Duracell kind.
China has just bought the mining rights of the second largest copper mine in the world. Where, Afghanistan.
I think China have us by the balls.

Alegrias1 Fri 20-Aug-21 12:46:17

Raab is now being briefed against by people in the FO, it seems. He basically said that they tried to call the Afghan Foreign Minister but that person was too busy, but someone in the FO has said that no call was ever placed.

Alegrias1 Fri 20-Aug-21 12:43:35

Threads about threads will get deleted. Lets stick to the subject matter. Why MPs are so angry with the government ?

MerylStreep Fri 20-Aug-21 12:42:35

Doodledog
Because it got very nasty. Very personal insults directed at named posters.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 20-Aug-21 12:42:27

What will happen now is that both Russia and China will now step into the sphere of influence.

History will show this to be a major turning point in world power and influence by the East.

Dinahmo Fri 20-Aug-21 12:40:29

I find it strange the subject matter that some people consider to be bullying. Surely one should be broad shouldered enough to cope with some strong opinions. I had a message deleted some weeks ago - I couldn't remember what I'd written but know that I always try not to be offensive.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 20-Aug-21 12:37:07

It hasn’t been pulled exactly, GNHQ are “looking” at it???

Doodledog Fri 20-Aug-21 12:35:33

I missed today's contributions, so it's difficult to know what has already been said, or where to come in, but I see that it has been admitted that the phone call to the Afghan Foreign Minister was never made.

Telling bare faced lies like this should be an automatic sacking offence if the liar is not honourable enough to resign.

I also don't know why the thread has been pulled, so sorry if any of this is inappropriate.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 20-Aug-21 12:30:20

Whilst GNHQ remove the other thread in order to “look” at it, I thought we ought to continue with such an important subject as this is one of the worse crises we’ve experienced since Suez.