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FannyCornforth Fri 03-Sept-21 11:05:26

Last night Harry made a speech at the GQ Awards.
He presented Prof Catherine Green, and Prof Dame Sarah Gilbert with the GQ ‘Heroes of the Year Award’.

I take both The Times and The Daily Mail.
I have read Harry’s speech and it seems wholly praiseworthy.
However, over the shoulder of DH, I see that Harry has still come under criticism by The Daily Mail for something or other that I can’t yet grasp…

trisher Fri 03-Sept-21 14:28:17

Well I've just listened to it and there certainly was emphasis on certain words, like "have" and "must" and 2%. Perhaps you need to do something with your computer sound lemon
So what's the answer to this one.
Rely on your family for financial support and you are a "scrounger"
Try building a career in media which will fund you and you are a "cash cow".
Can't win can you? Not if you are H&M anyway.
Nice speech, good message, well done Harry.

Daisymae Fri 03-Sept-21 14:22:14

To be honest, I'm not interested in what Prince Harry's views are on any subject. I just wish that he would go and lead a private life somewhere.

eazybee Fri 03-Sept-21 14:19:12

Harry appears to have done something commendable.
Let us hope he continues in this vein.
I wonder if he realises just how much credibility he has lost?

lemongrove Fri 03-Sept-21 14:13:20

Yes, a good speech, by whoever wrote it .
Spoilt by the delivery....sounded as if he was reading the ingredients from the side of a Bisto packet. No passion, no emphasis on certain words.

Ailidh Fri 03-Sept-21 13:58:56

I had to Google Omid Scobie. No Wikipedia page.

Smileless2012 Fri 03-Sept-21 13:25:16

Jaberwok has answered your question jaylucy there have been lies dressed up as their 'truth'.

It shouldn't be controversial I agree Fanny but as I posted on the previous page, as far as regaining any credibility is concerned, for many he has a mountain to climb.

It can take years to build trust and credibility and a lot less time to lose it. For many H's lost it.

FannyCornforth Fri 03-Sept-21 12:30:23

Alegrias ah, right, so he hasn’t been criticised.

I’m going to have to read the article in the DM to see what they are going on about
(I do it, so you don’t have to smile)

Jaberwok Fri 03-Sept-21 12:29:20

That wedding?!!that bike ride and.that's just for starters. Making money from the death of your mother is pretty grim. Lots of children lose a parent, some lose both without the benefit of extreme wealth and privilege, but they dont go on about it ad nauseum 24 years later. As I said for me he is despicable.

FannyCornforth Fri 03-Sept-21 12:28:09

I literally, honestly cannot see why on earth one has to have scientific qualifications to voice what he has said? confused
How is it controversial? confused
I’m truly baffled. confused

It’s the sort of thing that I can imagine a Headteacher saying in an assembly.

(I recently got an A in IGCSE Biology (smile) does that count?)

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Sept-21 12:23:35

25Avalon

Alegrias you don’t have to be a scientist to criticise someone for not being one. I guess maybe they are complaining it would have had more weight if he was a scientist idk or they were just being bitchy. Scientists welcomed what it said as per your posting so it has scientific backing.

So no actual evidence of criticism of his speech from anybody then. Except the usual anti-Harry brigade.

Okey doke.

25Avalon Fri 03-Sept-21 12:20:43

Alegrias you don’t have to be a scientist to criticise someone for not being one. I guess maybe they are complaining it would have had more weight if he was a scientist idk or they were just being bitchy. Scientists welcomed what it said as per your posting so it has scientific backing.

jaylucy Fri 03-Sept-21 12:11:28

What lies did he make to his family? Were you present at the conversations that were held between himself and his father, brother and grandparents? Or are you just believing the waffle that media have been throwing around?
For whatever reason, Harry and Meghan have been turned into the bad guys.
We have to remember that he went through the trauma of losing his much loved mother while in his early teens added to serving in the Army in Afghanistan . If it wasn't for the media again making public that he was there, he no doubt would have served his full term instead of being pulled out as he was.
We don't expect other serving members of the forces to have come out of there completely unscathed, so why should we expect him to be ?
He is doing the best thing that he believes he could do by taking his wife and children out of the spitefulness of the British media , if you had a grandchild that had been in the same situations as he was, surely you would want him to be in a place where he felt secure? Where were the lies? I am sure that although the RF may be disappointed in his actions, I am sure that his mental health comes first and they wholeheartedly support him.

Jaberwok Fri 03-Sept-21 11:56:56

Perhaps not. but he's caused a lot of hurt by his lies to people who love him particularly his father, brother and elderly grandmother, and seems to be happy to continue down that path. Frankly I couldn't care what this man has to say, for me he has become totally despicable.

FannyCornforth Fri 03-Sept-21 11:56:49

Zoejory it appears that you right about the criticism being in relation to media / online and social media.

tippytipsy Fri 03-Sept-21 11:53:16

It's a shame people see such competition between what good kid William and bad kid Harry are doing. It can't be helpful in fostering good relations between the brothers, although when they were the fab 4 that evaporated rather quickly on a sour note.
There is a kind of resentment of Harry turning over a new leaf. I do wonder how sincere all of this new image really is. It can't be at all easy for him.

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Sept-21 11:51:48

25Avalon

Lucca Harry rarely does anything quietly and seems to be constantly seeking publicity. I said I thought his speech was well written. I did not criticise it as he is not a medical expert just that some have criticised it for that reason. Whether that is just or not is another matter. Prof Green and Dame Sarah didn’t think so from Alegrias posting. That is what makes good debate.

Got any links to the people who were criticising the speech? Royal commentators with O-level Biology don't count.

I wonder if GQ invited him or if he just turned up on Zoom and they were too embarrassed to turn him off?

25Avalon Fri 03-Sept-21 11:49:03

Lucca Harry rarely does anything quietly and seems to be constantly seeking publicity. I said I thought his speech was well written. I did not criticise it as he is not a medical expert just that some have criticised it for that reason. Whether that is just or not is another matter. Prof Green and Dame Sarah didn’t think so from Alegrias posting. That is what makes good debate.

Lucca Fri 03-Sept-21 11:43:43

Jaberwok

Criticising false informaton seems a bit rich coming from Harry considering the deluge of false information he and his wife have peddled relentlessly over the past 18 months.

His “false information” does not affect the health of thousands of people and the progress of a pandemic

Blossoming Fri 03-Sept-21 11:42:00

I thought it was a very good speech.

Jaberwok Fri 03-Sept-21 11:41:02

Criticising false informaton seems a bit rich coming from Harry considering the deluge of false information he and his wife have peddled relentlessly over the past 18 months.

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Sept-21 11:40:50

Prof Green and Dame Sarah thought he was talking sense.

Who shall we listen to? Two world class scientists or some random posters off GN?

inews.co.uk/news/prince-harrys-gq-vaccine-speech-was-all-the-things-we-wanted-to-say-oxford-jab-creator-says-1179449

Lucca Fri 03-Sept-21 11:38:44

25Avalon

At the same time William was working quietly behind the scenes to get the Afghan officer he was at Sandhurst with out of Afghanistan with his family. What a contrast.

Tbh I did think PH’s speech was well written (by somebody) but I believe it has been criticised as he is not a medical expert.

Can you not just once accept he did something right ? Why mention William ? Why “such a contrast “ ? Harry making the speech quietly and in private would have been utterly pointless.
You don’t need to be a medical expert to say what he said for goodness sake.

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Sept-21 11:31:49

If he turned up to announce he'd found the cure for cancer there would be people blaming him for undermining the MacMillan Nurses.

25Avalon Fri 03-Sept-21 11:31:38

At the same time William was working quietly behind the scenes to get the Afghan officer he was at Sandhurst with out of Afghanistan with his family. What a contrast.

Tbh I did think PH’s speech was well written (by somebody) but I believe it has been criticised as he is not a medical expert.

Blossoming Fri 03-Sept-21 11:23:22

I thought it was a very good speech.