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Harry does Something Commendable Shock!

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FannyCornforth Fri 03-Sept-21 11:05:26

Last night Harry made a speech at the GQ Awards.
He presented Prof Catherine Green, and Prof Dame Sarah Gilbert with the GQ ‘Heroes of the Year Award’.

I take both The Times and The Daily Mail.
I have read Harry’s speech and it seems wholly praiseworthy.
However, over the shoulder of DH, I see that Harry has still come under criticism by The Daily Mail for something or other that I can’t yet grasp…

FannyCornforth Fri 03-Sept-21 11:09:09

James O’Brien is currently discussing the prolific criticism of H&M on LBC

Smileless2012 Fri 03-Sept-21 11:12:33

Oh dear. He has a mountain to climb I think, to get past the terrible way he's behaved.

The problem is, Omid Scobie just can't resist the temptation keep all of the nastiness and self pity in the lime light. I read yesterday that in the book to be published next year, he has a go at Camilla. The publishers apparently want any claims he makes to be substantiated including the naming of the 'racist Royal'.

Of course we don't know if that will be the case but based on previous behaviour, are any of us likely to be surprised if he does?

FannyCornforth Fri 03-Sept-21 11:14:51

Brilliant post Smile
I haven’t followed things as closely as you. What you say about Scobie is interesting.
Harry can be seen as a cash cow. He’s vulnerable isn’t he?

Lucca Fri 03-Sept-21 11:15:10

Yes but back to the OP…..,

Lucca Fri 03-Sept-21 11:18:28

His speech praised the scientists and criticised the dissemination of false information by anti vaxxers online
Both aspects commendable IMO

FannyCornforth Fri 03-Sept-21 11:19:31

Yes you’re right Lucca

Zoejory Fri 03-Sept-21 11:22:41

I think it was. the fact he was blaming not just social media but the media in general. I think the media is doing well in trying to get populations vaccinated. It's those on social media who are drip feeding content about their perceived dangers of vaccines

Smileless2012 Fri 03-Sept-21 11:23:14

Yes he is vulnerable Fanny and his vulnerability is due to his own behaviour and his wife's and as you say being seen as a "cash cow".

Perhaps seeing how a good speech can be over shadowed,
H & M may start reigning Omid Scobie in. It does look as if their friends who were once so vocal in their defence have gone quiet. I think it's time Omid Scobie did the same.

Blossoming Fri 03-Sept-21 11:23:22

I thought it was a very good speech.

25Avalon Fri 03-Sept-21 11:31:38

At the same time William was working quietly behind the scenes to get the Afghan officer he was at Sandhurst with out of Afghanistan with his family. What a contrast.

Tbh I did think PH’s speech was well written (by somebody) but I believe it has been criticised as he is not a medical expert.

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Sept-21 11:31:49

If he turned up to announce he'd found the cure for cancer there would be people blaming him for undermining the MacMillan Nurses.

Lucca Fri 03-Sept-21 11:38:44

25Avalon

At the same time William was working quietly behind the scenes to get the Afghan officer he was at Sandhurst with out of Afghanistan with his family. What a contrast.

Tbh I did think PH’s speech was well written (by somebody) but I believe it has been criticised as he is not a medical expert.

Can you not just once accept he did something right ? Why mention William ? Why “such a contrast “ ? Harry making the speech quietly and in private would have been utterly pointless.
You don’t need to be a medical expert to say what he said for goodness sake.

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Sept-21 11:40:50

Prof Green and Dame Sarah thought he was talking sense.

Who shall we listen to? Two world class scientists or some random posters off GN?

inews.co.uk/news/prince-harrys-gq-vaccine-speech-was-all-the-things-we-wanted-to-say-oxford-jab-creator-says-1179449

Jaberwok Fri 03-Sept-21 11:41:02

Criticising false informaton seems a bit rich coming from Harry considering the deluge of false information he and his wife have peddled relentlessly over the past 18 months.

Blossoming Fri 03-Sept-21 11:42:00

I thought it was a very good speech.

Lucca Fri 03-Sept-21 11:43:43

Jaberwok

Criticising false informaton seems a bit rich coming from Harry considering the deluge of false information he and his wife have peddled relentlessly over the past 18 months.

His “false information” does not affect the health of thousands of people and the progress of a pandemic

25Avalon Fri 03-Sept-21 11:49:03

Lucca Harry rarely does anything quietly and seems to be constantly seeking publicity. I said I thought his speech was well written. I did not criticise it as he is not a medical expert just that some have criticised it for that reason. Whether that is just or not is another matter. Prof Green and Dame Sarah didn’t think so from Alegrias posting. That is what makes good debate.

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Sept-21 11:51:48

25Avalon

Lucca Harry rarely does anything quietly and seems to be constantly seeking publicity. I said I thought his speech was well written. I did not criticise it as he is not a medical expert just that some have criticised it for that reason. Whether that is just or not is another matter. Prof Green and Dame Sarah didn’t think so from Alegrias posting. That is what makes good debate.

Got any links to the people who were criticising the speech? Royal commentators with O-level Biology don't count.

I wonder if GQ invited him or if he just turned up on Zoom and they were too embarrassed to turn him off?

tippytipsy Fri 03-Sept-21 11:53:16

It's a shame people see such competition between what good kid William and bad kid Harry are doing. It can't be helpful in fostering good relations between the brothers, although when they were the fab 4 that evaporated rather quickly on a sour note.
There is a kind of resentment of Harry turning over a new leaf. I do wonder how sincere all of this new image really is. It can't be at all easy for him.

FannyCornforth Fri 03-Sept-21 11:56:49

Zoejory it appears that you right about the criticism being in relation to media / online and social media.

Jaberwok Fri 03-Sept-21 11:56:56

Perhaps not. but he's caused a lot of hurt by his lies to people who love him particularly his father, brother and elderly grandmother, and seems to be happy to continue down that path. Frankly I couldn't care what this man has to say, for me he has become totally despicable.

jaylucy Fri 03-Sept-21 12:11:28

What lies did he make to his family? Were you present at the conversations that were held between himself and his father, brother and grandparents? Or are you just believing the waffle that media have been throwing around?
For whatever reason, Harry and Meghan have been turned into the bad guys.
We have to remember that he went through the trauma of losing his much loved mother while in his early teens added to serving in the Army in Afghanistan . If it wasn't for the media again making public that he was there, he no doubt would have served his full term instead of being pulled out as he was.
We don't expect other serving members of the forces to have come out of there completely unscathed, so why should we expect him to be ?
He is doing the best thing that he believes he could do by taking his wife and children out of the spitefulness of the British media , if you had a grandchild that had been in the same situations as he was, surely you would want him to be in a place where he felt secure? Where were the lies? I am sure that although the RF may be disappointed in his actions, I am sure that his mental health comes first and they wholeheartedly support him.

25Avalon Fri 03-Sept-21 12:20:43

Alegrias you don’t have to be a scientist to criticise someone for not being one. I guess maybe they are complaining it would have had more weight if he was a scientist idk or they were just being bitchy. Scientists welcomed what it said as per your posting so it has scientific backing.

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Sept-21 12:23:35

25Avalon

Alegrias you don’t have to be a scientist to criticise someone for not being one. I guess maybe they are complaining it would have had more weight if he was a scientist idk or they were just being bitchy. Scientists welcomed what it said as per your posting so it has scientific backing.

So no actual evidence of criticism of his speech from anybody then. Except the usual anti-Harry brigade.

Okey doke.