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Will Boris Johnson will break his manifesto pledge not to increase National Insurance in order to pay for social care in England?

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vampirequeen Fri 03-Sept-21 13:02:44

Of course he will. Lying is his default position.

Doodledog Fri 03-Sept-21 12:55:49

I'm not sure whether this is saying the same thing in a different way, but as I read it it was not so much a cap on assets as a maximum charge that people will have to pay for care.

The issue I have with that is that it will disproportionately affect the residual incomes of those in areas of the UK where houses are cheaper, so yet again, the North/South divide will widen. £100k is going to be a much higher percentage of the estates of people in less expensive areas than of those in the SE, particularly London.

I don't know what can be done about that, really, but it would be good to see a genuine attempt to 'level up' as promised, and this may have been a vehicle with which to do it.

Otherwise, it seems a lot fairer than the current system, under which people can be completely wiped out by a care bill that is free for others. The devil will be in the detail, though.

I see that Jeremy Hunt is calling for the money to be raised from tax instead of NI, and that's probably fairer, as it will impact on all taxpayers, not just those in work, although I do wish commentators would remember that older people have already paid into the system for years - it's not as though young people are being expected to do anything we didn't.

PippaZ Fri 03-Sept-21 12:33:00

It seems he may well do under plans that are the subject of negotiations between Downing Street and the Treasury.

It seems Downing Street wants a 1 per cent increase (because then they would only be putting up National Insurance by the same amount as Tony Blair back in 2002) while the Treasury wants 1.25 per cent (because that would raise more money). [New Statesman]

Currently, you will have your care (to the grave) paid for if you have less than £23,250 in assets. It appears the cap is to rise to £100,000: making many more people eligible for residential care.

One way or another Government will break its manifesto promise to leave National Insurance, value-added tax and income tax flat or falling. With their majority, it will pass the House of Commons. Of course, they will explain that this is NI in the hope that enough people do not realise that NI is a tax like any other.

I don't know about anyone else thinks, but if this is what they chose to do, isn't it very like TM's "death tax".