No problem PippaZ
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Have we changed to being Communist China without me noticing or do right-wing one party states just use the same rethoric?
(63 Posts)One of our newly raised-up politicians was talking this morning and apparently, we are now working towards "The People's Priorities".
We keep hearing The People's this and The People's that but this is not true. Only some voters want this government. It is only some of the people that want this government's policies. That does not stop this government from doing what they want to do. However, that is because they had a majority, not because 100% voted for them.
Mind you, this government has also slipped in First Past the Post for all mayoral and police and crime commissioner elections, starting in 2023, in the last couple of days. Were we asked? No. Will it favour one party staying in control? Yes.
We are becoming less democratic by the day.
GrannyGravy13
PippaZ I was not the poster that introduced Goose stepping or Chairman Mao Boilersuits I was using them as an example
If you cannot understand that they are both extremes and that the U.K. should/could aim to be somewhere in the middle as opposed to lurching from left to right every 10 or so years , then I fear that you are happy with the see saw political system…
I do understand - now you have explained it.
MaizieD
@growstuff
Is 22% enough to make it easy to ignore the rest of the population (particularly as not all of them vote tory)?
And
Our local greengrocer market stall has been marking up its prices in lbs for decades. No-one really cares one way or the other.
The only people who learnt only about Imperial measurements at school are now over 65. The vast majority of them vote Conservative, so my guess is it might persuade them that Johnson keeps at least one of his electoral pledges.
It's pathetic that it's even worth MP and civil service time to bother about it, when there are so many more important issues.
How can I give a link to a thread from over seven years ago?
At the time ( and now) I was objecting to the term as both fascist and communist ....in other words for any extreme. It implies faceless masses who need decisions taken for them.
Yes, it’s only a word, but like Gill it makes my teeth ache.
lemongrove
GillT57
Anything with the words 'The People's' makes my teeth itch, ever since we had the oft repeated mantras of 'The People have spoken', and 'The Will of The People'. We know how well that worked out.
Funnily enough I once mentioned this ‘People’ thing years ago on GN when a Labour Party member mentioned going to something either called a Peoples Parliament or Peoples something or other at their town hall.All the LP voters on the thread took great umbrage at my thinking it was something I would always avoid.
I didn’t realise that it’s only if Conservatives use the word then it becomes ‘teeth itchy’, but there it is.
Do give us a link to the thread, lemon.
At the time were you objecting to the term 'The People's ...' because of its fascist connotations?
GillT57
Anything with the words 'The People's' makes my teeth itch, ever since we had the oft repeated mantras of 'The People have spoken', and 'The Will of The People'. We know how well that worked out.
Funnily enough I once mentioned this ‘People’ thing years ago on GN when a Labour Party member mentioned going to something either called a Peoples Parliament or Peoples something or other at their town hall.All the LP voters on the thread took great umbrage at my thinking it was something I would always avoid.
I didn’t realise that it’s only if Conservatives use the word then it becomes ‘teeth itchy’, but there it is.
PippaZ I was not the poster that introduced Goose stepping or Chairman Mao Boilersuits I was using them as an example
If you cannot understand that they are both extremes and that the U.K. should/could aim to be somewhere in the middle as opposed to lurching from left to right every 10 or so years , then I fear that you are happy with the see saw political system…
MaizieD
@growstuff
Is 22% enough to make it easy to ignore the rest of the population (particularly as not all of them vote tory)?
And
Our local greengrocer market stall has been marking up its prices in lbs for decades. No-one really cares one way or the other.
Of course it is MaizieD. The least able emotionally of the Eton boys led by Johnson have led the charge to stop us voting for democratic representation and into the winner takes all years.
GrannyGravy13
There is a happy medium between Goose stepping and Chairman Mao boiler suites
That is where U.K. politicians should be aiming for, stop negative campaigning and get out and about, be seen and vocalise your vision of the U.K. going forward …
Are you saying you actually want/think it's okay to introduce the Goose Stepping?
@growstuff
Is 22% enough to make it easy to ignore the rest of the population (particularly as not all of them vote tory)?
And
Our local greengrocer market stall has been marking up its prices in lbs for decades. No-one really cares one way or the other.
GrannyGravy13
What I understand is that it will no longer be illegal to price loose goods (butchers, greengrocers etc) in lbs and ozs.
Why bother? It's just extra work for no reason.
22.5% of the UK population is over 60 and the vast majority of them vote Conservative.
Don't you mean 'butcher's', 'greengrocer's' etc.
Banana's by the lb again. I can't wait ....
Is the 60+ demographic so huge even after his spirited and ongoing attempt to kill off as many of them as possible with c19 that Johnson doesn't need to bother about pleasing any one else?
What I understand is that it will no longer be illegal to price loose goods (butchers, greengrocers etc) in lbs and ozs.
Whitewavemark2
The idiot is saying that we can now revert to lbs and oz.
Never mind that all the generations after us was brought up with the metric system.
Surely that can't be true! (Can it?)
Actually, I've just read that it's on the agenda. What a load of cobblers. It's pandering to the hillbillies. It's not just the generations "after us" who were brought up with the metric system. I did O levels in 1971 and we were the first cohort to use the metric system in our maths exams.
It really is unbelievable that government time should be spent on this rubbish, when there's so much real work to do trying to get Brexit to work and trying to salvage something of our export markets.
Just like Truss!
There is a happy medium between Goose stepping and Chairman Mao boiler suites
That is where U.K. politicians should be aiming for, stop negative campaigning and get out and about, be seen and vocalise your vision of the U.K. going forward …
The idiot is saying that we can now revert to lbs and oz.
Never mind that all the generations after us was brought up with the metric system.
They might be a tad worried as there are very few willing to defend the Tories at the moment, unless of course they are thinking “bring it on” in which case we are doomed.
Whitewavemark2
This is becoming serious
“UK govt to enshrine in OfCom regulations a legal obligation for national broadcasters to make “Britishness” a compulsory feature of TV.
All programs produced by the BBC & other domestic channels must be shown to be British & not “too international” or “generic”.”
Next the marching to the difficult Goose Step and compulsory crying while saluting the Dear Leader.
Aren't any Tory voters worried?
GrannyGravy13
MerylStreep
It’s quite amusing to note that the one TV channel that some of you love to hate is the only one that doesn’t pull it’s punches when criticising this government.
Yep, totally correct ??
Not correct at all. Clearly not watched Channel 4 then.
First three stories tonight:
1. How the government's requirement for care workers to have jabs is impacting staffing levels.
2. Analysis of the government's anachronistic agreement with the US and Australia.
3. Criticism of the government's slow response to the Grenfell Tower situation.
Criticism of the government doesn't have to consist of ranting and polemic.
In the interests of balance, I switched over to GB News where Farage was boasting about how HE has always known the truth about the migrant crisis and how (I quote) our real friends in the world speak English. Racist git.
This is becoming serious
“UK govt to enshrine in OfCom regulations a legal obligation for national broadcasters to make “Britishness” a compulsory feature of TV.
All programs produced by the BBC & other domestic channels must be shown to be British & not “too international” or “generic”.”
I'm obviously a "non-person" because the electoral system means that I have never voted for the winner in any election.
Anything with the words 'The People's' makes my teeth itch, ever since we had the oft repeated mantras of 'The People have spoken', and 'The Will of The People'. We know how well that worked out.
No, it's not. It's an opinion.
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