When will the next General Election be?

The fact that someone has taken the trouble to go to the poling station and scrawls on the ballot paper is indicative that they aren't happy.

Dinahmo it just goes as a spoiled paper if you scrawl on it. It does not make the point.

25Avalon

Can’t we have a ballot paper that says “I don’t want any of these”? That would probably be a landslide majority winner

Scrawl on your ballot paper. They are counted.

I can only agree growstuff but the votes come from those who don't get it and Johnson et al are very aware of that.

It might cheer you up to know there is talk that the Tories will bring the University fees down to £7.5K. That may have you clapping in the aisles.

I hope it wouldn't have anybody clapping in the aisles.It would be a con because the important issue is the amount people pay back. £7500 or £9250 would make absolutely no difference for the vast majority of graduates.

The only ones who would benefit are those on very high incomes who do manage to pay it off or those whose parents can pay the amount upfront with no loans.

Not only that, but there is talk of extending the repayment period by five years,which would make a huge difference to people in their fifties,who would have to carry on with repayments until it's written off.

If we are heading for a winter of discontent, with food shortages and expensive fuel bills, that will drive the decision too.

It could go either way, though. Will the Tories want to leave Kier to deal with a raddled economy and potential unrest, or will they want to cling to power at all costs?

Casdon

I agree with Polarbear2, Johnson will go and there will be a new leader (not sure about shiny new though). I think May 2023, but the Tories will move back towards the centre right ground before that, and there will be major changes in the cabinet.

Gove?

Off to put my head under the pillow and listen to classical music.

I agree with Polarbear2, Johnson will go and there will be a new leader (not sure about shiny new though). I think May 2023, but the Tories will move back towards the centre right ground before that, and there will be major changes in the cabinet.

? thank you. I’m happy to be corrected ?.

Sorry, pedants corner.... uninterested

25Avalon

Can’t we have a ballot paper that says “I don’t want any of these”? That would probably be a landslide majority winner

Absolutely agree. It’d show those in power we aren’t apathetic or disinterested we’re just fed up with what’s on offer.

Whitewavemark2

I’ve heard 2023.

In truth he will go for it if he thinks he will win.

Agreed....as any PM and political party would.

I think it wii be earlier while the nations woes can still be blamed on Covid, the economy is going to be weak for many years, the longer it goes on the worse it will get. Also the opposition is likely to get stronger, let’s face it they can hardly be weaker.

Can’t we have a ballot paper that says “I don’t want any of these”? That would probably be a landslide majority winner

Visgir1

PippaZ

So are you going for May 2024 Visgirl?

This country has no appetite for another election in the near future. The earliest could be October 2023, in my opinion this Government will want another 2 years.

One of the talking heads on Marr agrees with you.

I think the government want to have talked about all they are going to do re "leveling-up" but will not want to get as far as seeing their ideas put in to action.

I wouldn't put money on anything but it is interesting as they are obviously gearing up for something.

Mamardoit

I blame the LibDEms for putting Cameron in power in the first place. I don't really need to spell out what that led to in 2016.

They had the chance of electoral reform when in power and cocked it up. IMO they achieved nothing apart from ministerial cars/pensions and knighthoods. They didn't hold them to account or moderate the tories in any way.

And they stuffed my student sons re tuition fees. I realise that is making it personal.

I can't do with all this looking backwards Mamardoit. It's not as if a politician can't learn from their mistakes. They may not get all they stand for. However, what they stand for is still important. I am not sure how much power you think they had in the coalition.

It might cheer you up to know there is talk that the Tories will bring the University fees down to £7.5K. That may have you clapping in the aisles.

Sadly it's the usual Tory method of giving you a pint and then telling you to get a quart out of it. They never find out the actual cost. For example, health, care, junior and senior education have always been given a pint and expected to magic it into a quart. Running universities in this way presumably means Tory voters want them to be more like care, early education and the NHS.

Hmmm. 2023 imo. But with a new shiny leader. I think they’ll get rid of Johnson first. Ill health or something. He does look ill tbf altho I have no sympathy. They’ll say he’s got long Covid or something ?‍♀️ It’ll be a lie of course but that’s a daily occurrence now so would be no surprise

PippaZ

So are you going for May 2024 Visgirl?

This country has no appetite for another election in the near future. The earliest could be October 2023, in my opinion this Government will want another 2 years.

I blame the LibDEms for putting Cameron in power in the first place. I don't really need to spell out what that led to in 2016.

They had the chance of electoral reform when in power and cocked it up. IMO they achieved nothing apart from ministerial cars/pensions and knighthoods. They didn't hold them to account or moderate the tories in any way.

And they stuffed my student sons re tuition fees. I realise that is making it personal.

it only requires the Tories to get less than half.

But, Pippa, tories got less than half in 2019 (44%) and an 80 seat majority.

I think it requires an alliance between opposition parties so that they are not splitting the vote in winnable constituencies.

I think that Johnson will go for a GE as soon as he has his voter suppression Act in place and operative.

I think we would be naive if we thought the Labour Party was not preparing for the next election and reading the runes far better than we can as to when it might be.

As we know, the "anti tory vote", as you call it, does not need one party to win - it only requires the Tories to get less than half. Preferably a lot less. Whatever they say about not forming a coalition in such circumstances, I don't think they would be forgiven if they let the Tories in again.

Why do you blame the LibDems?

Yes. Whenever the Tories think they have the best chance of wining. My guess would be a year before they have to. Not long enough for the Labour party to reinvent itself. The anti tory vote won't win a FPTP election. I blame the LibDems for this. I know others will disagree.

I hope I'm wrong!

I’ve heard 2023.

In truth he will go for it if he thinks he will win.

So are you going for May 2024 Visgirl?

Nope it will not be early. I'll bet on that.