A winter of very expensive heating and little food?

Johnson claimed that the U.K. was the most prepared in Europe in the case of a fuel crises.

Lie

The graph shows the level of gas storage.

Boris is in the USA trying to persuade countries to cut the emissions of CO2 and here at home the government are paying a subsidy to a company to produce more C02. You couldn't make it up!

Urmstongran

Boris is in the USA trying to persuade countries to cut the emissions of CO2 and here at home the government are paying a subsidy to a company to produce more C02. You couldn't make it up!

And he wants to open up a gas field in the North Sea together with open coal mines.

The COP talks have an idiot liar chairing it.

growstuff

lemongrove

Next growstuff is give your cat cheaper cat food and investigate other stores.
You aren’t the only one on a low income btw

Exactly!

I do occasionally pop into Lidl if I happen to be passing (about once every three months) and I like their nuts and seeds. Most of the food I buy is fresh or frozen (non-processed) and it won't keep for three months.

My nearest supermarket is Lidl and I love their nuts and seeds as well. I have saved alot since they opened a couple of years ago. The downside is the first thing you see is the bakery so I've saved pounds in money and put on pounds on the hips. I love their chocolate brownies and their pastel de nata. Last time I checked their pastel de nata were literally half the price of the same thing in Sainsburys. Hard to walk past when you have no willpower.

Just testing to see if this thread moves

I’m also testing this thread to see if it moves.

Moves to where?

I'm guessing on the "trending" list.

together with open coal mines
Ooh, does that mean we’ll be like Germany then WWmk2?

No, it doesn't seem to register.

Urmstongran

^together with open coal mines^
Ooh, does that mean we’ll be like Germany then WWmk2?

You sound delighted at the prospect?

Urmstongran

Boris is in the USA trying to persuade countries to cut the emissions of CO2 and here at home the government are paying a subsidy to a company to produce more C02. You couldn't make it up!

The problem is that the CO2 emissions aren't being captured, as I'm sure you know very well. It would be possible (and is) to capture some of them, but the technology needs to be developed.

An other move could be to develop more eco-friendly coolants. We already have aerogel, but it's horrendously expensive.

Maybe if universities and research facilities hadn't lost EU funding, the UK could be on the way to developing something.

rosie1959

Growstuff I also love a salad as you described I sometimes grow my own mixed lettuce leaves only takes a small window ledge sized trough. You just gave me the idea I could do this through the winter on my windowsill.
Sometimes as it’s usually only me that eats them regularly a mixed bag can go a bit off if not used so clipping a few off each day fresh is much nicer

Yes, it is nicer and I grow them in troughs in my little garden, but I don't have the window sill space to grow them inside.

Where have all the gasometers gone in this time of need?

Dinahmo

Where have all the gasometers gone in this time of need?

According to some twitter people gasometers are obsolete technology and not suitable for storing natural gas. Something to do with the form in which it is stored. I'll see if I can find the thread I read.

MaizieD

Dinahmo

Where have all the gasometers gone in this time of need?

According to some twitter people gasometers are obsolete technology and not suitable for storing natural gas. Something to do with the form in which it is stored. I'll see if I can find the thread I read.

That’s right

I remember seeing them when I was a child. I think that there are a few cages left as a reminder of our industrial past.

Gasometer were connected to the gasworks and stored the gas made from coal. They use to rise up and down according to the volume they were holding if you remember. They are not suited to storing natural gas. Most have now been dismantled and the sites cleared.

We can’t do without CO2 altogether. Humans would cease to exist if that were so. Remember the carbon cycle.

Just been into Plymouth and shops look full. I wonder if it is the small out of the way towns that are feeling the shortages more? I can sort of understand that as if you are short of HGVs delivering to some small Devon towns isn't going to be the fastest places to get to.

There was alot of lovely fruit/veg/salad stuff in the pannier market.

The city was buzzing with all the freshers finding their way round the city. Felt very full of energy and positivity which was uplifting.

That's great worried, Plymouth is a place close to my heart. Any sign that students are taking precautions against Covid?

Not many masks around but I understand they have a drop in centre for student vaccinations. Hopefully they will take advantage of that.

Just thinking about last year and I remember Exeter had a big outbreak when the students went back but Plymouth didn't seem as bad. Let's hope they are all safe this year, so nice to see them all enjoying themselves, young and healthy and full of excitement at their new life and a few seemed to have started romances already and definitely no masks involved.

There was alot of lovely fruit/veg/salad stuff in the pannier market. did they have plenty of turnips?

(aka swede elsewhere ?)

I saw Angela Rippon in there once.

I used to buy rabbit in there for making a stew Callistemon and Brussels sprouts with frost still on them.Happy days!

Yes, happy days although someone tried to steal my purse in there once!