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A winter of very expensive heating and little food?

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PippaZ Sun 19-Sept-21 09:14:43

What is happening about this? I must admit I feel worried.

If this is true and will be paid for by those who have lost in-work benefits and are paying higher NI, how on earth will they get through the winter.

I'm a Pensioner and not rich enough to expect them to do anything for me.

ElderlyPerson Mon 20-Sept-21 14:39:19

mouse44

During the war, I believe, food was rationed so that everyone had a fair share.

Some food was rationed but I think that some things like carrots were not.

www.iwm.org.uk/history/what-you-need-to-know-about-rationing-in-the-second-world-war

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woolton_pie

PippaZ Mon 20-Sept-21 15:00:57

Some people do not seem to understand the difference between choice and not being able to act of your own free will. This is the position many will already be in. What do they do? It is also the postion many more may be in when furlough goes.

It seems as if some relish war-time conditions. I suppose we shouldn't be supprised. We've see the "we want our childhood/youth back brigade" telling us it was all good for everyone before, haven't we. Now what good came of that I wonder?

theworriedwell Mon 20-Sept-21 15:35:31

Theoddbird

Dinahmo. I grow tomatoes in buckets and some potatoes and garlic. I can use whatever is available in the supermarkets to make a meal. Simple tasty meals and especially soup are so easy to make. People get too set in their ways about what they eat... I have always used what is available.

You'd have struggled to make a tasty meal with what they had in my local supermarket last week. If you wanted some drills, children's puzzles, school uniforms and you were in luck, a few bottles of wine you'd have done well. Food? Not much in evidence.

The problem was there wasn't much available, bakery empty, meat section almost empty, rice, poppadoms, naan bread empty. No flour. They did have skimmed milk, some little pots of trifle and margarine. Care to give us a recipe?

As a seaside town we put the shortages in August down to so many visitors, town was bursting.

When the schools went back we though it would be fine but it isn't. I did go to a nearby town today and went to M&S. I wanted some celery - none but plenty of beetroot, I've never seen such a large display of beetroot in my life. I guess we better get used to beetroot. The chicken shelves were nearly empty, strangely for a seaside town there wasn't much fish. I will go down to the fish market tomorrow. For me the saving grace was they had a good selection of potatoes, I love my spuds.

theworriedwell Mon 20-Sept-21 15:36:46

I forgot to say the nearest rival to the beetroot was the courgettes.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 20-Sept-21 15:38:05

the worried well blimey

Aveline Mon 20-Sept-21 15:39:01

Just been shopping today. Absolutely no shortages noticed in any departments. Lots of veg. I was tempted to buy more than usual and get the soup maker out.
Problems must be local?

Caitlin Mon 20-Sept-21 15:44:55

Yes, please tell us. Not Ireland, Spain, Germany or France. Interested to know?

theworriedwell Mon 20-Sept-21 15:46:15

GillT57

Yes Callistemon I do remember those days. My parents vowed to make life better for us and they did. I tried to make life better for my children tio and I just don't understand some on GN who say it never did them any harm. Oh yes it did, it made them lack compassion and understanding of how difficult the coming winter is likely to be for many people. I fully expect a few posts admonishing people for having children they can't afford to feed properly and keep warm.

When people said something never did them any harm my gran would say, "Well it never did them any good either."

Gabrielle56 Mon 20-Sept-21 16:08:46

This is not Dickensian times and nobody expects you to grab from the poor youth! There's always been a covenant f care between the generations, whereby the younger working aged pay into the pot that looks after the poorer older aged. Then when the youngers become olders , it's the same deal, they will be paid for by the working aged population.we all ploughed funds into tax and NI all our working lives , that paid for NHS and everything else needed, now it's our turn to reap the fruits of our labour everyone's up in arms, calling us the"rich pensioners with massive pension pots and share options" what? Where? Who? Do they mean us? Most pensioners I know have been sold down the river by their so called "pension pots" either worthless or disappeared à là Maxwell's method. Most have small pension that subsidise the state pension, no-wait a minute- that's been nicked for us laydeez too! By.......Tory gov.theres a suprise. So NO! Nobody's being chucked out of their homes to line the pensioners pockets.dont be so hysterical dear.

Maudi Mon 20-Sept-21 16:08:53

Plenty of job vacancies when furlough ends, there are jobs out there if people want them.

Gabrielle56 Mon 20-Sept-21 16:11:49

Where in gawds name do you live? Back of beyond?!? Sounds awful. No Tesco/Aldi/Lidl/Morrisons/co op?

PippaZ Mon 20-Sept-21 16:15:31

Gabrielle56

This is not Dickensian times and nobody expects you to grab from the poor youth! There's always been a covenant f care between the generations, whereby the younger working aged pay into the pot that looks after the poorer older aged. Then when the youngers become olders , it's the same deal, they will be paid for by the working aged population.we all ploughed funds into tax and NI all our working lives , that paid for NHS and everything else needed, now it's our turn to reap the fruits of our labour everyone's up in arms, calling us the"rich pensioners with massive pension pots and share options" what? Where? Who? Do they mean us? Most pensioners I know have been sold down the river by their so called "pension pots" either worthless or disappeared à là Maxwell's method. Most have small pension that subsidise the state pension, no-wait a minute- that's been nicked for us laydeez too! By.......Tory gov.theres a suprise. So NO! Nobody's being chucked out of their homes to line the pensioners pockets.dont be so hysterical dear.

What was that tirade in reply to? Are you sure you are on the right thread?

PippaZ Mon 20-Sept-21 16:16:14

Maudi

Plenty of job vacancies when furlough ends, there are jobs out there if people want them.

Oh dear.

lemongrove Mon 20-Sept-21 16:21:21

Gabrielle56

Where in gawds name do you live? Back of beyond?!? Sounds awful. No Tesco/Aldi/Lidl/Morrisons/co op?

I was thinking the same?
Where in the UK are you worriedwell ? What supermarket was it that had no food? Was it a tiny local shop?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 20-Sept-21 17:04:34

Found on twitter

“1. Nobody to kill the turkey
2. Nobody to pack the turkey
3. Nobody to drive the turkey
4. No CO2 to store the turkey
5. No gas to cook the bloody turkey.”

Maudi Mon 20-Sept-21 17:04:54

953,000 job vacancies
In May to July 2021, there were an estimated 953,000 job vacancies, a record high, having grown by 43.8% (290,000) compared with the previous quarter.17 Aug 2021
www.ons.gov.uk › bulletins
Vacancies and jobs in the UK: August 2021 - Office for National ...

Yes plenty of jobs around it might not be your dream job but there are jobs to be had. Unless you live in the sticks perhaps and can't be arsed ?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 20-Sept-21 17:10:44

Emma KennedyBlue heart
@EmmaKennedy
CBI warn 76% of UK firms are reporting staff shortages and that consumer prices are set to rocket.
They’re calling on the Govt to allow businesses to recruit foreign workers.
Remember when we were in the Single Market? Was nice wasn’t it?

Casdon Mon 20-Sept-21 17:12:01

In the real world it’s more likely that those who live in the sticks can’t afford a car to get around, and there’s no public transport Maudi.

Caitlin Mon 20-Sept-21 17:24:09

Whitewavemark2

Found on twitter

“1. Nobody to kill the turkey
2. Nobody to pack the turkey
3. Nobody to drive the turkey
4. No CO2 to store the turkey
5. No gas to cook the bloody turkey.”

Thanks Brexit and all who voted for it. ?

Alegrias1 Mon 20-Sept-21 17:26:56

Maudi

Plenty of job vacancies when furlough ends, there are jobs out there if people want them.

Did I miss something? Who's complaining about lack of jobs?

Is that you, Thérèse Coffey?

effalump Mon 20-Sept-21 17:32:41

All part of the 'plan' ladies! All part of the 'plan'. We've got three months to Google 'War Time meals' and learn to make one chicken filet feed 6 and buy only seasonal veg fresh or tinned. wink

Maudi Mon 20-Sept-21 17:45:19

I'm pleased there is no one to kill the turkey, veggie Christmas for me and my family. I'm sure no one will starve, it might do some people good to lose a few pounds and think twice about what they are eating.

Alegrias1 Mon 20-Sept-21 17:57:15

Wow.

Alioop Mon 20-Sept-21 18:00:45

Loo rolls shelf nearly cleared out in my local store this morning. Hoarding or no delivery drivers....now that is the question.

aggie Mon 20-Sept-21 18:07:23

The loo roll section was full to overflowing , as were the fresh veg sections , no spaces , everything on my list available