Uncouth Angela Rayner doing Labour no favours

Is it just a Britsh thing to stereotype people with certain accents ? I wonder if France, Italy, Germany, the US have the same problem?

Zoe ?

Who is that wonderful MP? Is he still an MP? Not sure what party he was in. Probably Labour. Pretty sure he was from the North. He had an accent and a half. Really used to enjoy listening to him. Even though, as you can tell, politics isn't really my specialist subject.

Anniebach

I can’t think of any party leader or members of the cabinet or
shadow cabinet with or had a strong accent.

Kinnock?

lemon there has been critcism here of Prittie Patel not pronouncing G.

There are accents and regional accents are there not ?

Am not sure about that Anniebach I think there are bound to have been/are some.The present Speaker has a strong Lancashire accent.Gavin Williamson has a Yorkshire accent and Pritti Patel has ( or seems to have) quite an accent, as has Esther McVey
I really don’t think that having an accent of any kind holds you back these days.

I heard AR on the news this morning and had no problem in understanding her, she may not have had "an education" at university but she can certainly string more words together than BJ however, I do wish politicians would just answer the question instead of repeating the same thing over and over again.

Gorm is Gaelic for blue.

It's not that funny, but its quite early on a Saturday, its the best I can do.

Alegrias1

I hope I'm a couthy Scot Petera

If I was gorm I'd be blue about it. Scots Gaelic joke.

Do tell.

Anniebach

I can’t think of any party leader or members of the cabinet or
shadow cabinet with or had a strong accent.

I remember visiting Cambridge whilst a student and people having a good old laugh at my Scots accent. When I told them that their accents were just as strong, they laughed and said "Oh, no, not us, we have no accent at all." Just before the plums fell out of their mouths.

I hope I'm a couthy Scot Petera

If I was gorm I'd be blue about it. Scots Gaelic joke.

I can’t think of any party leader or members of the cabinet or
shadow cabinet with or had a strong accent.

Is gorm a word? If you can be gormless can you be gorm?

I wonder, if a man with Angela Rayner's background and accent had given the same speech would there be the same amount of criticism? Just saying ....

Eg intrepid ..

lemongrove

It certainly is a word....otherwise there wouldn’t be an uncouth.?

Mmm, yes but, so-called unpaired words are a thing, where one form is either nonexistent or very rare. Or even, in the most celebrated case (flammable/inflammable) mean the same.

Alegrias1

Well I never knew couth was a word.

It's a proper education, this Gransnet. Ever so pleased I am, to be allowed to take part. Makes you proper grateful, so it does. ( reverses out, tugging forelock respectfully )

I always thought you were a couthy Scot

MissAdventure

Looks like we're stuck with a load of posh speaking twats then.

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Starmer must learn from Angela Rayner or face life in the political wilderness
In Westminster this week, Labour's deputy leader gave us the rare sight of the party actually opposing the Government

Somebody close that window quickly! Save Alegrias! ?
( unless you live in a bungalow Aleg) in which case you will be quite alright.

I find myself disgruntled, nonplussed and dejected. I will immediately defenestrate myself with nonchalance so that my misgivings are kept intact.

I actually think arsey is quite a useful characteristic for a woman.

It certainly is a word....otherwise there wouldn’t be an uncouth.?

Alegrias1

Well I never knew couth was a word.

It's a proper education, this Gransnet. Ever so pleased I am, to be allowed to take part. Makes you proper grateful, so it does. ( reverses out, tugging forelock respectfully )

dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/couth.
Yes it is a proper word.

I think that's right Witzend (18.53). And the Labour Party will never get going again if its members condemn KS for being too flat and AR for being too strident.

I don't find her voice anything like as bad as Mrs Thatcher's, both before and after the elocution lessons.