Petrol queues reported now on BBC news

Alegrias1

Ooh look, here's another one.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58678131

When the RHA, the AA and the Scottish Government say the same as the UK government, you have to be quite hard pushed to think its a conspiracy.

Yes, exactly so. It doesn’t matter how many times it has been said that it was BP experiencing some supply problems ( to only some of their garages) and the media going OTT,
In the rush to constantly blame the government for everything bar the weather, some posters are making their comments appear very silly.

MaggsMcG

There is NO petrol shortage and NO shortage of trained tanker drivers. There was a delayed delivery for a very few petrol stations and the media hyped it all up. As usual, just like they did with the toilet rolls and other things in March 2020. It was panic buying and hoarding that caused it.

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It certainly was.

I’m fortunate as I mostly travel locally, so being on the red, put £30 in early Friday morning, why would I fill the tank.
If garages limit purchases to £20/30 there are those who don’t need a full tank, but will still visit another garage for more with the other lemmings.
The media totally hyped this, our local radio station Thursday evening ‘we are getting reports of a fuel shortage and queues are forming at local garages’ ffs.

The media love to create panic buying if they did not constantly stir the pot.People would have just bought there normal amount instead of buying to much and filling petrol cans,there would have been enough to go round.Same idiots that caused a tiolet roll shortage at the beginning of covid.

BP have made the petrol problem!
I think there is something else behind this with BP?
It's know there is a shortage of drivers.
400k HGV drivers needed in Europe, including Germany, Italy, Poland Sweden and Denmark. Now USA have a Truck driver issue as well.
This problem has been exacerbated by the idiot press and those desperate to make sure they have a full tank of petrol.

PS.Your apology for being so dismissive will be graciously accepted.

If you bothered to read, really read, other people's posts you'd have seen I didn't deny there was a localised problem. Queues throughout the country are because the situation has been escalated by sensationalist reporting, which claimed there was a FUEL SHORTAGE. No there isn't, although now because so many rushed to the forecourts to make sure their nowhere near empty tanks were filled to overbrimming, and some even filled several jerry cans on top, there are people who do NEED fuel who won't be able to get it. There has been a delivery problem to some areas, it will now be worsened by the countrywide topping up. I wonder why you think there are suddenly areas of gridlock around petrol stations? Must have happened by telepathy because it wasn't even a tiny bit media driven ? Hope my midwife niece's home deliveries don't mind the long delays of her getting to them by public transport.

I find your post condescending and belligerent, but shan't ask for or expect any apology.

A 30 min journey on Friday took nearly 2 hours due to idiots blocking the roads trying to get into garages to panic buy. On my return journey no holdups, every garage with a sign ‘ no fuel’ . I despair of the mentality of a lot of people!!!

3nanny6. So you don't agree with panic buying, but are glad that you stocked up with enough food to last you until February? ?

Even though the government is now going to issue visas to foreign HGV drivers, it won't make much difference for a while, at least. They have to decide to come, apply for a visa, find a job and somewhere to live and get themselves over here. As they will be short term visas many drivers won't want to give up a steady, though lesser paid job in their own country for a temporary one in the U.K. even if the pay is better. I can't see the situation improving much.
We need to find a way to encourage people to take on these rather unattractive jobs, make it cheaper to qualify, and speed up the process somehow.

Of course none of these fine citizens causing gridlock at my nearest petrol station had in any way been influenced by press reports. No they were all just filling up in the normal way. And every last one of them had an urgent and totally justified need not to have their fuel needle move anywhere near the half a tank mark!

One of the paramedics I work with had a disagreement with her 82 year old Mother yesterday when she was told that her Mother had popped out to fill her car up ‘just in case’. As my colleague said, she only drives about 10 miles a week and never goes below half a tank. ?
Last night we had ambulances off the road as they can’t find fuel and only a couple of the older ambulance stations have fuel bunkers.Things are desperate enough at the moment with long waits for ambulances without adding in no fuel.
I came home at 11pm and there was a queue outside our local petrol station who were in the process of having a delivery.
Perhaps we should go back to the wartime slogan ‘Is your journey really necessary?’

The visas run out on Christmas Eve anyway. I will be interested to see how many bother….

If the newspapers didn't blow everything out of proportion it would help!

Clevedon

If the newspapers didn't blow everything out of proportion it would help!

If the idiots in the population (which appear to be in a majority) didn't put 2 and 2 together to make 40 it would also help.

I'm finding it quite amusing that many posters who utterly denied that the paper they read had any influence on their , say, vote to leave the EU, are now screaming about the media leading the panic. Are the media influential or are they not?

I hope you are not referring to me MaizieD cannot remember last time I purchased or read any newspaper.

I have been referring to the original BBC coverage of this item. Which appears to have been picked up by all and sundry and become a self fulfilling prophecy.

It is quiet where I live- every garage has closed down.

GrannyGravy13

I hope you are not referring to me MaizieD cannot remember last time I purchased or read any newspaper.

I have been referring to the original BBC coverage of this item. Which appears to have been picked up by all and sundry and become a self fulfilling prophecy.

You're not the only person posting on this thread, GG13

I am totally aware of that MaizieD I was responding to your sweeping statement

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Brexit Britain.

MaizieD

Clevedon

If the newspapers didn't blow everything out of proportion it would help!

If the idiots in the population (which appear to be in a majority) didn't put 2 and 2 together to make 40 it would also help.

I'm finding it quite amusing that many posters who utterly denied that the paper they read had any influence on their , say, vote to leave the EU, are now screaming about the media leading the panic. Are the media influential or are they not?

None of the media I listen to or read has affected my decision about when to fill my car up. However, I can understand why some might want to get in just in case - they know the govenment cannot or will not sort it out quickly.

An effective government would have been able to bread confidence. This government are so weak their only defence is attacking others - such as the RHA.

Shapps knows his weasel words will appeal to those who are happy to be fed them. As we have seen since this government took power, Johnson and the government are always late to the party. They do too little, too late and seem to live in terror that the damnable Brexit will be blamed (which would be part of the truth).

There was already a shortage of HGV drivers. Stop trying to pin everything on Brexit and this government. Many people are selfish and they don’t care a jot about emergency vehicles having fuel, as long as they have plenty. Even if they don’t need it. It’s pathetic and the toilet roll scenario all over again. There is no petrol shortage!!

There's a shortage of HGV drivers in Europe, too, tickingbird,. They don't have food and fuel delivery shortages.

I wonder what we've got that they haven't...

Oh, more fun. There could well be an actual fuel shortage in prospect
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One of Britain’s biggest oil refineries, the Stanlow oil refinery in Ellesmere Port, which supplies about a 6th of Britain’s road fuel, is “teetering on the brink of collapse, piling further potential pressure on crisis-riven petrol stations.”

mobile.twitter.com/mikegalsworthy/status/1442033071893721089

Story is in The Times. Paywalled.

The really dislikable Grant Shapps was suggesting that the international shortage of HGV drivers is due to Covid.

If it can be that selective ...