Johnson's attempts to limit our democratic freedoms

This thread just shows how Tory members and brexiters NEVER answer a question!
Just like Boris Johnson at PMQ
It’s either because they have something to hide or they haven’t got any answers

OK, that's acceptable criticism. See the difference?

Although there's a wee slip into Campbell-berating there, lemongrove, but we'll let it go, seeing as you're trying.

Yes, of course he is wrong!
We are not a ‘corrupt little country’ ( hasn’t Campbell ever travelled?) Nor is our media any worse than any other.
As for big donors being honoured....that has happened regularly in all political parties.

Alegrias1

GrannyGravy13

I am beginning to realise that the only MP’s, ex SPADS or political commentators of right of centre politics are allowed to be criticised on GN.

Alistair Campbell is not now nor has he ever concerned himself about anything/anyone else other than Alistair Campbell

Ah, but is he wrong?

He may be a self important idiot with a penchant for playing the pipes, but is he wrong?

?

GG13

GrannyGravy13

I am beginning to realise that the only MP’s, ex SPADS or political commentators of right of centre politics are allowed to be criticised on GN.

Alistair Campbell is not now nor has he ever concerned himself about anything/anyone else other than Alistair Campbell

Ah, but is he wrong?

He may be a self important idiot with a penchant for playing the pipes, but is he wrong?

I am beginning to realise that the only MP’s, ex SPADS or political commentators of right of centre politics are allowed to be criticised on GN.

Alistair Campbell is not now nor has he ever concerned himself about anything/anyone else other than Alistair Campbell

I can’t believe that Campbell is being held up as some sort of Holier than thou philosopher

Can you point out where that happened please?

As opposed to somebody quoting a tweet of his that happens to be true, which then triggers a set of rather unedifying posts attacking him? Such as you might find in, say, a dictatorship that wanted to silence dissenting voices.

Thank you

I can’t believe that Campbell is being held up as some sort of
Holier than thou philosopher?
GG13 the first mention of Nazi Germany/Hitler on here was the signal for me to not take anything seriously, it’s always done as a last resort, but this time came early on.

I haven’t got a problem with the Honours system per se. Cash for Honours should be illegal.

Alistair Campbell is a has been reduced to a couple of stand-in presenter slots on GMB, just trying to keep himself in the Public Eye.

GrannyGravy13

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ALASTAIR CAMPBELL
@campbellclaret
Evidence of the corrupt little country Johnson has created that a banker is made peer and minister after six-figure donation to the Tory Party and it is not even on the news, barely figures in the press. Johnson survives by having a media virtually as morally bankrupt as he is

Alistair Campbell should know all about being morally bankrupt after all it’s a good description of himself and the PM he worked for/covered up after.

Oh attacking the messenger is always a good ploy.

I am not attacking the messenger merely pointing out the blatantly obvious.

I am not a fan of Mr.Johnson or his Government however, posting tweets from Mr.Campbell trying to take the moral high ground I find hilarious.

Whatever you think of Alastair Campbell, what he says is true.

Where's the outrage about "cash for honours"?

What are you accusing Campbell of in this instance, then GG13?

Do you think he's lying about cash for honours?

And what do you think of Freedland's article? Do you have any observations that might throw a different light on Johnson's actions?

Exactly! attacking the messenger.

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ALASTAIR CAMPBELL
@campbellclaret
Evidence of the corrupt little country Johnson has created that a banker is made peer and minister after six-figure donation to the Tory Party and it is not even on the news, barely figures in the press. Johnson survives by having a media virtually as morally bankrupt as he is

Alistair Campbell should know all about being morally bankrupt after all it’s a good description of himself and the PM he worked for/covered up after.

Oh attacking the messenger is always a good ploy.

I am not attacking the messenger merely pointing out the blatantly obvious.

I am not a fan of Mr.Johnson or his Government however, posting tweets from Mr.Campbell trying to take the moral high ground I find hilarious.

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ALASTAIR CAMPBELL
@campbellclaret
Evidence of the corrupt little country Johnson has created that a banker is made peer and minister after six-figure donation to the Tory Party and it is not even on the news, barely figures in the press. Johnson survives by having a media virtually as morally bankrupt as he is

Alistair Campbell should know all about being morally bankrupt after all it’s a good description of himself and the PM he worked for/covered up after.

Oh attacking the messenger is always a good ploy.

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ALASTAIR CAMPBELL
@campbellclaret
Evidence of the corrupt little country Johnson has created that a banker is made peer and minister after six-figure donation to the Tory Party and it is not even on the news, barely figures in the press. Johnson survives by having a media virtually as morally bankrupt as he is

Alistair Campbell should know all about being morally bankrupt after all it’s a good description of himself and the PM he worked for/covered up after.

ALASTAIR CAMPBELL
@campbellclaret
Evidence of the corrupt little country Johnson has created that a banker is made peer and minister after six-figure donation to the Tory Party and it is not even on the news, barely figures in the press. Johnson survives by having a media virtually as morally bankrupt as he is

I read Jonathan Freedland’s article first thing this morning. We are travelling to the UK today so had plenty of time to reflect about what was written.
We think that the UK has sinked to a new low. And what we wonder is who is really behind all this. Boris Johnson is just a puppet. He was chosen for his personae which appeals to a certain type of people who can’t see through it.
It’s a very sad and worrying time.

Yes I am on the right thread growstuff are you?

Your post @ 14.15 responding to a post of mine which you re posted reads "How can you justify the actions which have been taken to limit freedoms".

Alegrias1

Just read the thread again.

Nobody compared Johnson to Putin, Stalin or Franco. Except those who think that would be a clever way of undermining sensible arguments.

And the poster who thought the we'd see Stalin-like dictatorships when the wokey wokes get elected.

I think the poster was multi-tasking and thought she was addressing a toddler. (Maybe she's babysitting.)

More like the Theatre of the Absurd .

Smileless Where did I make any assumptions about you or claim you justified Johnson's actions? Are you sure you're on the correct thread?

25Avalon

Reductio ad absurdam Smileless

Boris - is that you?

Reductio ad absurdam Smileless

I am not evading the issue growstuff and where exactly have I justified any of BJ's actions on this thread? You're simply making assumptions and what are you basing them on?

Why shouldn't I contribute to this thread to express my opinion, not on the thread per se but on a particular post?

As it happens MaizieD I am not in total disagreement with some of the views already expressed but don't agree with the way some are expressed for example "How long before Johnson arrests and executes his opponents to secure a dictatorship just as Hitler did".

Really 25Avalon!!