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Now is the winter of Britain’s discontent

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Whitewavemark2 Sat 02-Oct-21 15:57:09

Day after day there are articles like this in the worlds press.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 02-Oct-21 18:58:11

Kali2

Please please tell me Johnson did NOT say 'never mind about cancer outcomes'? Surely he did not stoop THAT low?

He did I am afraid.

He sort of waved his hand as if he was waving cancer and early deaths as something to be disregarded in favour of higher wages.

Kali2 Sat 02-Oct-21 18:46:07

Please please tell me Johnson did NOT say 'never mind about cancer outcomes'? Surely he did not stoop THAT low?

MaizieD Sat 02-Oct-21 18:37:21

Lincslass

PippaZ

Lincslass

Really can’t think it will be any worse than the last one, with Unions bringing the country to its knees, Jim Callaghan trying to cap pay rises to bring the 26%inflation rate down. Yes we are still contending with covid, but the horrendous 14 weeks of bodies not being buried, tons of rubbish lining the streets etc, deliveries not being made, wonder if Labour supporters were worried about deaths then. The foreign press, well really not interested in what they say, they’re in it to sell papers, think the ordinary man in their streets will be having their own problems, and not really worrying about ours.
libcom.org/history/1978-1979-winter-of-discontent

What are you talking about Lincslass?

Well if they’re calling this the winter of discontent, I’m comparing it with the last one, which I remember well.

It hasn't even really got going yet. It's still Autumn.

Let's see what it looks like in March 2022

Lincslass Sat 02-Oct-21 18:29:37

PippaZ

Lincslass

Really can’t think it will be any worse than the last one, with Unions bringing the country to its knees, Jim Callaghan trying to cap pay rises to bring the 26%inflation rate down. Yes we are still contending with covid, but the horrendous 14 weeks of bodies not being buried, tons of rubbish lining the streets etc, deliveries not being made, wonder if Labour supporters were worried about deaths then. The foreign press, well really not interested in what they say, they’re in it to sell papers, think the ordinary man in their streets will be having their own problems, and not really worrying about ours.
libcom.org/history/1978-1979-winter-of-discontent

What are you talking about Lincslass?

Well if they’re calling this the winter of discontent, I’m comparing it with the last one, which I remember well.

PippaZ Sat 02-Oct-21 18:22:47

Lincslass

Really can’t think it will be any worse than the last one, with Unions bringing the country to its knees, Jim Callaghan trying to cap pay rises to bring the 26%inflation rate down. Yes we are still contending with covid, but the horrendous 14 weeks of bodies not being buried, tons of rubbish lining the streets etc, deliveries not being made, wonder if Labour supporters were worried about deaths then. The foreign press, well really not interested in what they say, they’re in it to sell papers, think the ordinary man in their streets will be having their own problems, and not really worrying about ours.
libcom.org/history/1978-1979-winter-of-discontent

What are you talking about Lincslass?

Grammaretto Sat 02-Oct-21 18:14:47

Sorry I haven't read all your replies. I think there is a lot of alarmist stuff - it sells news - but there are good signs as well.

The Labour party ? I think are planning to reverse Brexit, It could take a while but as long as it's a plan.smile

Aren't we supposed to be phasing out animal eating?
I will personally be glad when that happens. I have not eaten meat knowingly for over 30 years and am a very healthy 73yr old. We don't have to eat meat.

I had an argument a few years back with a carnivore body builder. He was not happy at all when I pointed out how many Olympic athletes and medal winners were vegetarian or even vegan. ie Serena Williams and Carl Lewis.
thebeet.com/these-7-olympic-gold-medalists-are-powered-by-plant-based-diets/

MerylStreep Sat 02-Oct-21 18:13:17

Zoejory

And to top it all off the latest Yougov poll has given the Tories an 8 point lead!

All together now Always look on the bright side of life, ta da ta da
??????????
Anyone know any good jokes. ?

PippaZ Sat 02-Oct-21 18:08:25

Not sure why that quote was included. I certainly didn't want to see the nonsense again.

PippaZ Sat 02-Oct-21 18:07:40

lemongrove

PippaZ you have no idea what people can or can’t afford or who is a Conservative voter, so that was a rather silly comment.

That poll must give Starmer hope. The country is starting to count the cost of this government's incompetence ...

Dinahmo Sat 02-Oct-21 18:04:43

Aveline

Every winter is a winter of discontent to our media. Only bad news sells or increases viewer numbers.

Totally wrong. Anything that the younger royals do will outsell anything else.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 02-Oct-21 18:00:21

And of course we still have covid to cope with. According t9 Zoe 65k cases a day.

France 10k a day.

Italy less than 10k a day.

PippaZ Sat 02-Oct-21 17:56:39

Zoejory

Well nobody has been able to disprove the poll so I'll leave you all to it.

The poll was the usual monthly poll; nothing to do with the conference. If you think the general British public make up their minds about a Conference on the first day, you have a much higher opinion of them than most pollsters.

PippaZ Sat 02-Oct-21 17:52:36

lemongrove

PippaZ you have no idea what people can or can’t afford or who is a Conservative voter, so that was a rather silly comment.

That really isn't worth a reply.

lemongrove Sat 02-Oct-21 17:51:37

That really is splitting hairs MaizieD they are still 8 points behind in the poll .....even with one day to go.

Alegrias1 Sat 02-Oct-21 17:50:09

The poll was completed at 5pm on the 29th, after 2 days of polling.

Starmer's speech started at 3pm on the 29th, probably finished at 4pm.

So it's not a fair conclusion that the results reflect anybody's views after the Labour Conference.

(Incidentally, autocorrect changes Starmer to "starlet". How interesting ?)

MaizieD Sat 02-Oct-21 17:48:27

Zoejory

*I'll just point out then for visgirl that the poll was almost wholly carried out before the end of the Labour Conference*

The poll was carried out 28-29 September.

Labour's conference was 25 -29 September.

I'm not sure what your point is.

The end of the conference was 29th Sept. The poll was carried out the day before and on the day.

That is, before the 'end', as Alegrias said. More like 'during'.

Zoejory Sat 02-Oct-21 17:48:12

Well nobody has been able to disprove the poll so I'll leave you all to it.

Casdon Sat 02-Oct-21 17:47:32

The discontent with the Government as voted on YouGov is probably more relevant than Labours polling at the moment given the length of time to the next election..
yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/government-approval

Zoejory Sat 02-Oct-21 17:47:08

lemongrove

PippaZ you have no idea what people can or can’t afford or who is a Conservative voter, so that was a rather silly comment.

You can say that again, lemongrove

This is getting farcical.

Zoejory Sat 02-Oct-21 17:46:10

PippaZ

Zoejory

Fear not, PippaZ!

You can buy it online. Have it delivered. Loads of different brands available

www.justmilk.com/product/lactose-free-uht-milk/

What about those who can't afford a delivery? Conservatives have absolutely no knowledge of how others live - or for many - survive.

I'm not a Conservative.

PippaZ Sat 02-Oct-21 17:44:58

Zoejory

Fear not, PippaZ!

You can buy it online. Have it delivered. Loads of different brands available

www.justmilk.com/product/lactose-free-uht-milk/

What did happen to the woman who said "let them eat cake"? Think on Zoejory

lemongrove Sat 02-Oct-21 17:44:40

PippaZ you have no idea what people can or can’t afford or who is a Conservative voter, so that was a rather silly comment.

Zoejory Sat 02-Oct-21 17:43:35

I'll just point out then for visgirl that the poll was almost wholly carried out before the end of the Labour Conference

The poll was carried out 28-29 September.

Labour's conference was 25 -29 September.

I'm not sure what your point is.

lemongrove Sat 02-Oct-21 17:42:01

Mr L booked it yesterday Jane and he said that the message was free delivery as he booked it.We have a smart pass and like you use them weekly for deliveries.
When he arrives home I will ask him about the actual wording.

PippaZ Sat 02-Oct-21 17:41:50

Zoejory

Fear not, PippaZ!

You can buy it online. Have it delivered. Loads of different brands available

www.justmilk.com/product/lactose-free-uht-milk/

What about those who can't afford a delivery? Conservatives have absolutely no knowledge of how others live - or for many - survive.