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Rees Mogg has a "conversation&q uot; with unemployed youth worker

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NotSpaghetti Tue 05-Oct-21 12:27:02

In Manchester JRM was confronted by someone trained as a youth worker who lost his job due to cuts.
twitter.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1445032358269313025?s=20

This made me weep to be honest. Youth work undervalued. People with disabilities undervalued too.

Deeply depressing.

Lostmyglassesxx Wed 06-Oct-21 14:45:54

I dont see how you can even comment if you heard nothing .. really ?

NotSpaghetti Wed 06-Oct-21 14:42:15

I think people we don't warm to can be good in their constituencies.
I think Diane Abbott is well thought of in that way for example.

I know now that this man, Dominic is a disability campaigner but I think some of the "shouty" tone that people are complaining about comes actually from his disability. And as he says, he feels passionately about the issues.

The really bad thing I take away is yet more proof (if I needed it) that:
1. central government cuts to the local government budgets inevitably do SO much damage because they can then only (barely) deliver "core" services.
2. That short-sightedness is useful if you are in power - just deal with the here and now and cut anything that costs money now but saves in the long run such as youth work (someone mentioned Surestart earlier but this applies to all manner of services). This works because the effects of cuts are delayed. This time however they have caught up with the government as they have been "responsible" for too long.

kevincharley Wed 06-Oct-21 14:37:53

Chestnut

I absolutely agree that youth work should be an absolute priority, but before whinging about the Tories please take note of this:
The county council youth services in our county were completely shut down in 2006 under a Labour government.
So all the youth workers here lost their jobs in 2006 under Labour.
People have short memories and they blame whoever is around.

'Analysis by the YMCA youth charity found that local authority expenditure on youth services dropped from £1.4bn in 2010-11 to just under £429m in 2018-19, resulting in the loss of 750 youth centres and more than 4,500 youth workers.'
Still nothing to do with the tories?

Callistemon Wed 06-Oct-21 13:26:33

Nannan2

Lucca- maybe its not that then- but i have turned up sound, and made sure its unmuted- still no sound- ive got sound on other sites- so no idea, i just cant hear anything on it.

It happened to me on some YouTube videos, tried everything.
What device are you using?

Nannan2 Wed 06-Oct-21 13:25:10

Lucca- maybe its not that then- but i have turned up sound, and made sure its unmuted- still no sound- ive got sound on other sites- so no idea, i just cant hear anything on it.

Callistemon Wed 06-Oct-21 13:21:45

granjan66

Does JRM live in the real world? I wonder!

Everyone's real world differs

My real world may have many problems but they're not the same as those of Mr Hutchins, Mr Rees-Mogg or indeed any other Gransnetter,

Nannan2 Wed 06-Oct-21 13:20:00

My elder son was also very prem, diagnosed with CP at birth, but hospital never bothered telling me this till he was 5 yrs old! By then, though it was a struggle, id patiently helped him to feed himself, and dress after a fashion, (but he couldnt read, write or anything till he was 8/9 ) but he got no DLA allowed either, because of being able to do so.He never got anything all his life, till 16, we applied for PIP, then had to go to appeal court, before they awarded him anything at 17.Even though he was born with it, and it will never 'heal' or 'get better'. What are these assessors and DWP departments thinking?! And if they asked him to undress at any assessment he would just freak out.

GillT57 Wed 06-Oct-21 13:14:28

No, JenniferEccles that won't do. I did not make any comments about JRM, about him being a Tory, I made a point about you being condescending and offensive. Why would you assume that some of us have a problem with JRM being well educated and well spoken? I am, and it doesn't make me an unfeeling, pompous arse.

Callistemon Wed 06-Oct-21 13:12:27

25Avalon

Jacob Rees Mogg is my MP and as a constituency MP he does a good job. Prior to that Dan Norris was our Labour MP and he too did a good job. Those who make derogatory remarks about Jacob - have you actually met him?

I have relatives who live in his constituency and they say the same.

It would be interesting to know if he has followed this up and I would be surprised if he hasn't.

25Avalon Wed 06-Oct-21 13:08:05

Jacob Rees Mogg is my MP and as a constituency MP he does a good job. Prior to that Dan Norris was our Labour MP and he too did a good job. Those who make derogatory remarks about Jacob - have you actually met him?

Nannan2 Wed 06-Oct-21 12:59:05

Deedaa-Its not enough because the tories would rather keep the cash in their coffers, for themselves.Like the money they shelled out for that stupid new room for when they do the coronavirus updates on tv- then promptly stopped doing them.what a waste of money.

JaneJudge Wed 06-Oct-21 12:54:28

David Cameron also promised as one of his pledges before he was PM not to limit the amount of continence pads provided to children with disabilities with continence problems. He had no idea they were limited. It never happened. They are still limited to 1 at night and 2 or 3 during the day depending on your local health authority.

Lucca Wed 06-Oct-21 12:53:28

Alegrias1

^Is it because he is well educated, speaks well and is comfortably off?^

No, its because he's a selfish git.

Exactly. Nothing to do with his education or speech, sorry. I’m rather well spoken myself as it happens.

HannahLoisLuke Wed 06-Oct-21 12:52:16

I’ve just watched it and I thought JRM showed great patience as this poor man shouted over and over about his degree and that the Torys had stolen his job. JRM got it wrong about PIP it’s true but it’s not just the conservatives who have cut funding for these kind of jobs. It’s been going under Labour too.
Very sad for those affected.

JaneJudge Wed 06-Oct-21 12:49:29

The Cameron's received round the clock nursing care which was funded by the taxpayer also. They must understand the emotional impact of having a child with a disability but their experience of the domestic side of caring for him will have been wildly different to most people's experience.

Alegrias1 Wed 06-Oct-21 12:47:35

Is it because he is well educated, speaks well and is comfortably off?

No, its because he's a selfish git.

JenniferEccles Wed 06-Oct-21 12:45:41

You see, here we are…. “hideous Rees Mogg” someone said, and there have been other really horrible comments about him.

What on earth has he done to elicit such vitriol from, presumably those on the Left?
Is it because he is well educated, speaks well and is comfortably off? Oh and of course he’s a Tory MP so clearly that makes him fair game, but the language some of you on here have used, goes beyond all that.

Yes I accept he’s a bit eccentric, an almost throwback to an earlier time, but he doesn’t deserve such hate-filled comments.

Another misconception about Tory MPs was made when someone claimed that none of them knew what it was like to have a disabled family member.
What about David Cameron and his severely handicapped son who sadly died a few years ago?
He spoke at length about the endless hours they spent in A and E while their poor child had another set back.

Lucca Wed 06-Oct-21 12:42:59

GillT57

^ascertain that claimants are entitled to the hand-outs^. Did you mean to be so rude, condescending and offensive JE or was it accidental? .

Hand outs? Maybe Jane Judge would like to give her opinion on that, or Lemongrove's DD? You should be ashamed of yourself

You beat me to it. The language used says it all.

Lucca Wed 06-Oct-21 12:41:35

Managed fine

Lucca Wed 06-Oct-21 12:41:26

Nannan2

Gabrielle56- i suggest you stop berating folk for 'pretending' they 'don't know how to turn sound on' and 'should learn quick' - WTH??? I cant get the sound on either,on that video- and its nothing to do with 'unmuting it' or 'turning the sound up' - ive just done that- it still did NOT work- i dont know if its because i dont have twitter or not? But ive no intention of getting twitter just for that- and NO, im not a tory either.I just cant hear the sound function , but it does display some of whats said i think.

I don’t have Twitter either.

JaneJudge Wed 06-Oct-21 12:39:15

Oh look at him 'sympathy gathering' hmm I don't think people even think about the implications of the language they used. People went mad about the word 'scum' but condescending language to describe people with disabilities is fine.

Alegrias1 Wed 06-Oct-21 12:37:09

Cross post MissA

NoddingGanGan Wed 06-Oct-21 12:37:06

I understand his frustration but had to turn it off because I have a higtened sensory awareness condition which makes it impossible to listen to. Having a disability doesn't excuse rudeness. Every time JRM opened his mouth to attempt a reply he was cut off by more shouting from the complainant.

Alegrias1 Wed 06-Oct-21 12:36:03

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/jacob-rees-mogg-dominic-hutchins-cerebral-palsy-tory-conference-b958732.html

Here's one that isn't on twitter and has subtitles.

JaneJudge Wed 06-Oct-21 12:35:32

Can you imagine how miserable you must be resenting the most vulnerable in our society?

Nannan2, when you go on twitter in the corner of video screen there is a speaker symbol which you have to click on to unmute. Could it be that?