Who is paying for it then?

Is the objection to
1) who paid for/offered the holiday
2) the timing of said holiday
3) how many holidays Johnson has had?
I think #3 has been addressed as need not concern anybody.
And #1 and #2 are not unique to Boris Johnson.
Have we forgotten Tony Blair’s holidays?
In August 2003 Tony Blair stayed in Sir Cliff Richard's Barbados holiday home. The singer later revealed he had offered the Caribbean villa, where Mr Blair and his family stayed for three weeks, because the prime minister looked so "gaunt and tired" as debate raged about the Iraq war.
(Timing? Crisis? Oh yes, we were being dragged into a war with Iraq weren’t we?)

The following year Mr Blair stayed at the Sardinian villa of Italian counterpart Silvio Berlusconi, reportedly leaving him hobbling after a challenge in a "friendly" football match.
I am sure we all remember how Silvio Berlusconi was one of the sleaziest characters in European politics then and since.

Another Italian villa he stayed at was in Tuscany, and owned by Labour MP and former paymaster general Geoffrey Robinson. Did Robinson owe his position to the PM at the time? I wonder.
So noses in the trough do not only apply to the Tory party.. But if it entertains anybody to obsess about BJ and passes the time - feel free

Johnson getting something wrong implies that he did something to get wrong in the first place.

I remember the boss of an insurance company saying that the more time his underwriters spent on the golf course, the better - at least they weren’t getting things wrong in the office.

I feel much the same about Boris and holidays.

Desperate? No, really not.

But some of us just can't believe this totally blind faith in a man who is such a dishonest, selfish, incompetent liar and thief, and destroying the country, bit by bit. And yes, as said above- getting angry and ah well, I'll admit it- sort of desperate, but not in the way you think. These are desperate times.

lemong - why do you think I am concerned?

Do you remember this, it was not that long ago:

''Boris Johnson is facing demands to explain who paid £15,000 for his Caribbean holiday over the New Year following disclosures in official documents.

According to the register of members’ interests, a benefactor called David Ross had allowed the prime minister and his partner, Carrie Symonds, to use accommodation for a private holiday in St Vincent and the Grenadines.

It was widely reported that this David Ross was the Tory donor who co-founded the Carphone Warehouse chain and who has a holiday home on the private island of Mustique, one of the Grenadines.

But on Wednesday night Ross reportedly told one media organisation he was not the owner of the villa where Johnson had stayed and had not paid for the prime minister’s stay.''

The point is that all gifts must be declared openly, and an links or vested interests. Zac Goldsnith is a powerful man, with tons of money and contacts, and he has recently been given a Peerage by Johnson.

And we are, whether you will admit it or not, in a multiple and very complex and very difficult crisis so the PM should be here to deal with it.

A clapped out caravan in Cleethorpe's ? Perhaps no. But a £15.000 a week luxury mansion is an insult to all those who lost £20 a week a few days ago, just as prices for everything are rising like crazy due to above crisis, and HIS total lack of preparation and the terrible mess he is making of Brexit.

Stand by him, excuse him if you wish- but don't expect me to.

I think he might enjoy a caravan park AS YOU CAN'T HEAR ANYONE AS THE MUSIC IS TOO LOUD

What would you have him do kali.... rent a clapped out caravan at Cleethorpes?

Or he could have enjoyed his country home Chequers. Or the large estate that his family own on Exmoor.

build back bell flops

As Kali2 said,
the current crisis is multiple and very serious, on so many fronts ...

I find it hard to believe that anyone with even only half an eye on politics can't see this.
Boris is officially the leader, and needs to be here in the country doing just that right now- leading.
If, of course, he is capable of that!

If the care crisis continues people will just die. I'm not sure at what point that is acceptable

I think your comments about Johnson are getting more and more desperate kali to be honest.As others say, you can have a pop at him for various political things but this holiday at a friend’s villa isn’t one of them.
Many people with money have rich friends with lovely holiday homes that they stay in.It’s in the public eye and if anything has to be declared ( within Parliament) then it will be.
Why on earth are you so concerned? Scrub that last question...
I think I already know.

Sorry Lemon- if you can't see the difference between a clapped out caravan at Cleethorpes- and an 11 bedroom, 2 swimming pools villa at £15000 a pop- owned by someone you have recently given a Peerage to- then... what can I say?

There is not shortage of petrol yet, but of HGV drivers - I thought we had all understood that.

And if you can't, or won't, see that the current crisis is multiple and very serious, on so many fronts- then again, what can I say?

Disingenuous - at the very least.

When isn’t there a ‘crisis’ either real or manufactured ( petrol!)
So what if he and his family have an out of season holiday and stay at a friend’s villa. All PM’s are usually able to do this.
What would you have him do kali.... rent a clapped out caravan at Cleethorpes? ?
Where do leaders of other countries go to for a well earned holiday, they have all had various crises to handle in the last two years!

Ignore 'being!

It's the principle though, Hetty, as far as I am concerned.
Hopeless or not (I agree with your opinion of him in this regard), he is being accepting taxpayers money to do a job, and should be very visibly be doing that job at a time when new crises are surfacing daily!

Of course there is another thought that it makes no difference whether he is here or not.

I don't care where he is - as he seems pretty useless anyway - so will it make any difference?

Of course I wouldn't- totally irrelevant. He is the PM, and who paid for his previous holidays to very exotic and hugely expensive locations, has been questionned before. Like the Villas in Italy (when he was London Mayor) owned by Russian oligarchs, or others in the Carribean, etc. He has to declare gifts, all gifts- and he is in a position to give huge contracts to friends (as we have witnessed during Covid and which we will all have to pay for, for decades to come, including all the sub-standard stuff that ended up in landfill!)- and in this case, to give a peerage.

This is his 4th this year. It isn’t as if he hasn’t had a break.

we cannot employ carers/support workers
I keep posting about it but there are other crisis that are just not being reported yet
they have put people in a right sorry state

it costs 25k a week, I think it is fair to ask who is paying for it hen there are multiple posts resenting paying for social care for vulnerable people!

Lucca

MayBeMaw

Does any body really care? Well obviously you do, but why should it be an issue?
People in senior positions in industry, the law, finance, whatever have holidays, they are at the end of a telephone or internet connection, BJ has not gone to the moon or into a deep jungle to render him incommunicado.
If Zac Goldsmith who is not short of a bob or two offers him his villa for a family holiday that is no skin off my nose or indeed yours
How many holidays the PM has had? So what?
It’s hardly worth getting up a head of steam about.

You know what ? I agree with you. I have scant regard for our illustrious PM but this seems a bit OTT. There are far more things he can be criticised for or questioned about.

It isn't just an energy crisis though, is it! We are in the path of a huge tsunami of potential crises right now.

For various reasons, we are facing huge problems, and I feel that Boris taking another holiday right now - free or paid is irrelevant - is a dereliction of duty, and quite frankly, taking the p****.
His absence is both insensitive and irresponsible IMO.

Agree with Gwyneth everyone deserves a holiday. If a friend offers a villa who cares ? I wouldn’t say no.

Everyone is entitled to a break, but it is highly unusual for PMs to bugger off in the middle of an energy crises, shortages of all sorts etc.

Sorry previous post was in response to Kali