Drink Spiking of Students

GrannyGravy13

It’s not just young women who have their drinks spiked though. Have any of you been in a town/city centre in the evenings and seen how groups of females behave?

I do wonder if this party at any cost attitude has anything to do with being in some form of lockdown for upwards of 18 months?

Yes Women are just as bad but all the newspaper articles and social media concentrates on how unsafe it is for women which makes women feel even more unsafe than they did before. We need to concentrate on making it safer for everyone.

Where MiniBaggs is at uni the students' union are trying to organise a boycott of nightclubs where spiking happens.

I don't feel it's the job of a university to do more to protect its students. They are adults, technically at least. Drawing the attention of the management of places where spiking occurs seems like a way of raising awareness.

Jackiest I agree it needs to be safe for everyone.

There are lots of good males out there and I do wonder how they feel going out and about, are they constantly evaluating their every move incase it could be misinterpreted?

I do not know what the solution is, other than being extra vigilant which after a few drinks and enjoying the moment in all honesty probably flys straight out of the window.

How could you be vigilant about an injection GG13? It is a criminal act.
Baggs I think the universities could do more in providing minibuses and creating a very safe space on campus, for example.
The point is that these are not isolated bars in city centres but places with thousands of young men and women. Their vulnerability is exacerbated by the fact that their A level years have been anything but normal.

Mamie

How could you be vigilant about an injection GG13? It is a criminal act.
Baggs I think the universities could do more in providing minibuses and creating a very safe space on campus, for example.
The point is that these are not isolated bars in city centres but places with thousands of young men and women. Their vulnerability is exacerbated by the fact that their A level years have been anything but normal.

Their vulnerability is exacerbated by alcohol along with getting carried away with the music etc.

If they were to be more vigilant/aware they just might feel the needle puncturing the skin and act immediately.

sodapop

I think the latest thing is girls being spiked by a needle and given drugs by injection. Girls have started wearing denim jackets etc as it's harder for the needle to penetrate. It's a scary world out there for women

I think that has been proven to be an urban myth

Greenlady
Urban myth or not, girls are wearing denim to protect themselves.

You are assuming that this is always happening to girls who have had too much to drink GG13. With some of the reported cases that is not true.
Are you really victim blaming?
I'm sorry, but I find that appalling. Would you say that if it was your granddaughter?
No evidence either way that it is an urban myth greenlady102. The police are still investigating.

Yes being drunk does make you more vulnerable but it still should not happen. As with most crimes the best prevention is the knowledge that you will most likely get caught. So most of these places have cctv, check through it and find the person who did it. If the cctv is not good enough improve it. Make sure all the students know how it is being done so that can look out for it. Not just being done to them but being done to others and then call security and catch the person.

Jackiest

Yes being drunk does make you more vulnerable but it still should not happen. As with most crimes the best prevention is the knowledge that you will most likely get caught. So most of these places have cctv, check through it and find the person who did it. If the cctv is not good enough improve it. Make sure all the students know how it is being done so that can look out for it. Not just being done to them but being done to others and then call security and catch the person.

Totally agree ?

DS's partner had her drink spiked in a bar in Budapest when she went home a few years ago.. We don't know what the drug was but it left her with a lot of mental problems. She was in her 30s so not an inexperienced teenager.

If they are in Edinburgh, there is an organisation called Street Assist which sends help to anyone who needs assistance - like thinking that their drink has been spiked, feeling unable to look after themselves getting home after a night out, or in trouble of any sort.
I have just seen a Facebook post by them at
www.facebook.com/streetassistedin
They can be contacted by calling 07708351200.

It could also be a useful number for ANYONE to know! Every student and other young person "out on the tiles" should have their number on their mobile.

Edinburgh, along with othe cities, is also pioneering "Strut safe" where volunteers will accompany anyone who feels they need company and protection getting home after a night out, or travelling about the city at night, or keep them company on the phone..
www.facebook.com/strutsafe/
www.indy100.com/news/strut-safe-edinburgh-interview-founder-b1934178
Their phone number is 0333 335 0026

This is part of many initiatives to "Reclaim the streets"
twitter.com/rts_edinburgh?lang=en
www.thesun.co.uk/news/14321107/reclaim-these-streets-vigil/

How do we protect our grand -daughters?

greenlady102

sodapop

I think the latest thing is girls being spiked by a needle and given drugs by injection. Girls have started wearing denim jackets etc as it's harder for the needle to penetrate. It's a scary world out there for women

I think that has been proven to be an urban myth

It is most certainly not a myth that people are being injected unknowingly greenlady102.
By now you will probably have seen it on the news.

These threats are real.

Warn you grandaugheters.

Jackiest

Yes being drunk does make you more vulnerable but it still should not happen. As with most crimes the best prevention is the knowledge that you will most likely get caught. So most of these places have cctv, check through it and find the person who did it. If the cctv is not good enough improve it. Make sure all the students know how it is being done so that can look out for it. Not just being done to them but being done to others and then call security and catch the person.

Yes. I think this is the idea behind the proposed boycotting of some venues – make the owners/management do more to prevent spiking and to catch any criminals engaging in it.