The Queen is in hospital

Sorry the above was to Aveline

There are around 1.329 billion Catholics worldwide.
I was acknowledging The Pope’s importance to them, as a number; and also to their belief that he is God’s representative on earth.

The Queen will never abdicate. What she is doing is handing more and more stuff to her children (not Andrew) and grandchildren. The crown will pass to Charles and not William. That’s how it works here. Charles won’t abdicate either although I don’t think he will be a popular King, especially with Camilla by his side. Of course the Palace aren’t telling us the whole story about the Queen’s health. Why should they? It’s personal. I do think she has looked bright and happy since Philip’s death. More relaxed somehow. He obviously wasn’t a well man for the last few years of his life so his death could have been a relief in some ways for the Queen.

Blinko

GrannyGravy13

Speculation abounds…

Her Majesty is 95, she has had a busy October thus far, all reports are saying precautionary tests .

Let’s hope she is able to put her feet up between now and going up to COP in Glasgow.

I don't think she should be going to the COP. Why not send Prince Charles instead? With all his green credentials, hugging trees and whatnot..

Prince Charles and Prince William are already going to COP, not sure about their wives.

I do not acknowledge that.?

I think that if the Pope is ‘allowed’ to step down, then a British monarch also should be ‘able’ to.

I think that it is clear that HMQ just doesn’t want to.

I’m not a Catholic (or indeed a practising Christian), and neither am I a practising monarchist, but I acknowledge that The Pope is a more elevated role in the grand scheme of things

GrannyGravy13

Speculation abounds…

Her Majesty is 95, she has had a busy October thus far, all reports are saying precautionary tests .

Let’s hope she is able to put her feet up between now and going up to COP in Glasgow.

I don't think she should be going to the COP. Why not send Prince Charles instead? With all his green credentials, hugging trees and whatnot..

Well you and I are Aveline

I dare say the Dutch thought Queen Beatrix was very special too.

Hoi Alegrias we are very special (using the royal 'we' here!)

lemsip

this thread has turned into something despicable!..........

What's despicable about not wanting to discuss an old person's health and expressing a desire to see a change to our constitution?

This is where "loving" members of the Royal family gets you.

(Sorry Aveline )

No Alegrias1 because we live in the U.K. and we are discussing Elizabeth 2

I don't mind what Alegrias says about me. Maybe I am weird?! Not particularly bothered anyway.
The Queen is a real old fashioned traditionalist who believes she has a sacred duty to her country so abdication was never on the cards. Personally, I'd rather the crown went directly to William but that's not going to happen. It's most likely for the best though. Give him a bit more time with his young family.

this thread has turned into something despicable!..........

Oh yes, of course, because we're special

I respect the Queen for her hard work and her sense of duty, I do not know her, I am only basing my opinion, like everyone else, on what the press tell us. I do get very irritated though by the silly bulletins about precautionary tests, just routine etc., etc., when anyone with knowledge of advanced old age knows this is patently not true. I wish her well, but we have to acknowledge her age. Oh, and the term 'Queenie' makes my teeth itch, hateful word.

My error, I should have said king/queen of. United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

Anniebach

When has a king or Queen abdicated but carried on with a public life whilst their son/ daughter has been crowned monarch ?

www.royal-house.nl/members-royal-house/princess-beatrix/abdication

The Princess said she felt fortified by the knowledge that making way for her successor did not mean stepping down from public life, and that she hoped still to have many opportunities to meet members of the public.

When has a king or Queen abdicated but carried on with a public life whilst their son/ daughter has been crowned monarch ?

I wish the Queen well and hope that she reigns for as long as possible because I would sooner have QE11 than King Charles.

I am patriotic but that doesn't mean I have to love any member of the royal family. I have an enormous amount of respect for the Queen as head of state.

She deserves privacy with regards her health like all of us. I doubt that we would be told if something serious was found. She would just withdraw from public view and Charles and William would step up.

It was tongue in cheek. I meant brave to make any comment not praising the queen wholeheartedly on GN !

OK then.

Aveline answered me and I responded to her. That was all hunky dory, but no, its all up for grabs. So. This is what I think.

You can't love a person you've never met, have never spent time with and who doesn't know you exist. I love red wine, I love Spanish music, but that is not the same "love" I feel for members of my family and close friends. If red wine and Spanish music were no longer in my life, it wouldn't be the end of the world.

So when someone says they "love" the Queen, I believe that what they actually love is the idea of the Queen; somebody who has lived a long time and has always been in our lives. Somebody who represents an image of this country that is fast becoming history.

By "loving " the Queen we feel we are entitled to discuss her mental state after the death of her beloved husband, what kind of medical tests she is getting and the fact that she's been told to give up alcohol. (apparently )

So I can understand respect, admiration, whatever, but "loving" is undermining the feelings of the people who really do love her, and indulging our own feelings at their expense.

Why brave lucca it’s a true statement I said the same further up I think it takes a lot of trust and love to hand over a business but holding on to the reigns at 95 is beyond the call of duty She should have retired and passed the role over long ago
She s been a very good head of the business but I m sure at 95 she’s too old to keep this up and she should trust her son to continue what she has done well for so long and have a rest
Would you like a 95 year old bus driver to drive you home or a 95 year old surgeon to take out your gall bladder No I thought not
She can’t go on for ever

A bombshell comment ??

Alegrias1 said that saying you love the queen is a bit weird, she did not say Aveline is weird. Big difference.

Alegrias1

Leave the old lady in peace, for goodness sake.

I admire her, I like to see her when she's happy and smiling. But I don't love her That's a bit weird, sorry Aveline

Why drop a bombshell comment telling somebody they are weird, then give say it's not right to discuss it on a thread about the queens health?

It's not right to use pejorative language about another person's choices IMO. What ever the thread is about.

It’s not as if she would have had to completely retire from public life at all