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Penelope Jackson murder trial

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Sallywally1 Wed 27-Oct-21 02:05:16

Who killed her abusive husband. I have been following the trial And feel so sad for her. 20 years of abuse from this horrible man, who can blame her for finally snapping. Whilst murder is of course wrong under any circumstances I hope she does not go to jail. If there had been support for her things might have been different. They look so ordinary too, they could be anyone’s next door neighbour or family friend!

Peasblossom Fri 29-Oct-21 19:04:06

I think one of the key aspects of the decision may have been that she did actively seek him out to stab him, when he had removed himself from the situation.

The daughter and her husband witnessed the quarrel over Zoom and he then shut himself in the bedroom. So it was planned in that she deliberately took a knife and went to find him.

The person who seems to be suffering most is her daughter who says she has lost a man she loved and respected and a woman who was always there for her.

Riverwalk Fri 29-Oct-21 18:58:33

She committed a terrible crime, particularly when stabbing him further when he was calling 999, however ....

I'm just mulling things over in the mind - if she'd been so calculating, rather than 'losing it', would she really have said those startling things to the police that were caught on their bodycams?

The Daily Mail article is a disgrace - how she 'lured a man from his loving marriage' - such sexist writing.

surfsup Fri 29-Oct-21 18:56:24

She has to serve 18 years. According to the senior detective interviewed outside court she painted a terrible picture of her husband. What did for her was the manner she in which she spoke to the arresting officers and the 999 operator. There wasn’t really any going back from that.

Grammaretto Fri 29-Oct-21 18:46:41

Well she must have been Mad for whatever reason and therefore was not in a right state of mind.
She is now showing remorse.
The alternative would have been a long term secure psychiatric hospital which are notoriously harder to leave than prison.

Kandinsky Fri 29-Oct-21 18:45:02

Mind you, I’ve seen quite a few cases of ‘domestic murder’ where the killer has got less than 10 years.
A women stabbed her husband to death a few years back and only got 2 years!

Urmstongran Fri 29-Oct-21 18:40:23

JaneJudge

'she could have just left'

Are you familiar with the freedom program? I know some of you are of a certain generation but please look into why people (women) can't just leave if they are being abused.

I meant this woman only. The one we are discussing, not the wider issue.

MissAdventure Fri 29-Oct-21 18:37:34

I wouldn't deign to know.

Kandinsky Fri 29-Oct-21 18:36:56

The main thing is, that she has said whatever sentence she got will have been worth it

I doubt she thinks that now she’s got 18 years.

JaneJudge Fri 29-Oct-21 18:33:56

itv news are reporting it happened the night before valentines day
and I think that says it all about how women are viewed and punished

Calmlocket Fri 29-Oct-21 18:29:42

I havent followed the whole story but papers Ive read all use the word 'alleged' abuse from her husband. The papers did mention an earlier incident when the daughter saw her mother threaten her father with a knife, that was two decades ago. Why didnt the daughter call the police?
The wifes downfall was when she was arrested and gloating about killing him and showing no remorse on what she had done.

Sallywally1 Fri 29-Oct-21 18:29:11

I think her prison sentence will be less onerous that the prison she was in for 20 years with an abusive and violent bully. She will possibly feel she is more free now than when in her ‘marriage’.

JaneJudge Fri 29-Oct-21 18:27:40

'she could have just left'

Are you familiar with the freedom program? I know some of you are of a certain generation but please look into why people (women) can't just leave if they are being abused.

MissAdventure Fri 29-Oct-21 18:21:38

The main thing is, that she has said whatever sentence she got will have been worth it.

VANECAM Fri 29-Oct-21 18:20:39

Not sure why so many on here were so keen to jump to the defence of the accused.

So many people on here not relying on the evidence of the case but instead the evidence of their own life experiences.

That’s not how the law works.

Kandinsky Fri 29-Oct-21 18:20:20

She sounded far too pleased with herself after killing him, I’m certain she thought she’d only get a couple of years.

welbeck Fri 29-Oct-21 18:20:01

the judge and jury had all the facts before them.
we don't.
because some women are abused and driven to extreme acts, it does not follow that all homicides are in this category.
have you heard the 999 call. chilling. it's murder plain and simple.

lemongrove Fri 29-Oct-21 18:17:40

MissAdventure

She could have said he liked it rough and choked him to death.
That seems to work.

Some of you sound to have had practise.....?

Gwyneth Fri 29-Oct-21 18:16:07

Having now read about this case on the BBC news site it sounds as if the sentence was fair. She even kept stabbing him whilst he was dialling the emergency services.

Visgir1 Fri 29-Oct-21 18:13:56

Ilovecheese

She should have strangled him and said she did it because she was fed up of lockdown. Then she might have got 5 years. Or perhaps if she had killed him during sex and then said she couldn't remember doing it. Then she might have got 4 years.

That did make me laugh... grin
But 18yrs?She might never get out? Not surprised.
One thing tho she will be a bit of a Celebrity in Jail.

MissAdventure Fri 29-Oct-21 18:12:40

She could have said he liked it rough and choked him to death.
That seems to work.

lemongrove Fri 29-Oct-21 18:09:01

Urmstongran

She could have just left him. As in walked out. She had a daughter. She could have stayed for a while. Divorced. Got a payout (half) and set up on her own. Yes I feel very sorry for what went on in her 3rd marriage. But it wasn’t all behind closed doors. Her daughter knew some of it. She wasn’t trapped at home with babies and nowhere to run. Sorry but I think she did have options. She didn’t choose any.

Actually, I agree with that.

She was bound to get a long sentence, having followed the story.

Jackiest Fri 29-Oct-21 18:07:33

This is the Daily mail so not a reliable source but it does not paint a very nice picture of her and states that she could possible have murdered someone else.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10135887/Wealthy-retired-accountant-guilty-murder.html

Ilovecheese Fri 29-Oct-21 18:03:01

She should have strangled him and said she did it because she was fed up of lockdown. Then she might have got 5 years. Or perhaps if she had killed him during sex and then said she couldn't remember doing it. Then she might have got 4 years.

Urmstongran Fri 29-Oct-21 18:01:14

18 years minimum so not out in two-thirds term unless an appeal is successful.

Chewbacca Fri 29-Oct-21 17:57:19

Wow, 18 years is harsh. I expect there will be an appeal though.