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Should Owen Paterson be given a peerage?

(31 Posts)
MaizieD Sat 06-Nov-21 12:23:36

Is this a dead cat, or is there a serious prospect of Paterson being elevated to the Lords?

If true, would it be a last straw or just shrugged off?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/05/no-10-declines-rule-out-potential-peerage-owen-paterson?fbclid=IwAR1pmDzdxGsKVhMXycLuroEly5R1mdrHoB1AR4QN-GbEcDi8ZCkePbnwi2U

Also note that No10 didn't answer the question about tory MPs being threatened with withdrawal of cash from their constituencies if they voted against the government.. That usually indicates that the answer is affirmative... wink

westendgirl Sat 06-Nov-21 12:29:59

Of course he shouldn't .Why on earth should he ?
Let's hope it's a dead cat.

silverlining48 Sat 06-Nov-21 12:39:05

A big No is the answer. However little surprises me these days. What scares me is how easy it is to degrade democracy.

winterwhite Sat 06-Nov-21 12:40:52

Of course he shouldn't. But that doesn't mean he won't be in due course i.e when it can be hoped that people will have forgotten about it. On the other enter he may not want to re-enter the cruel world of politics. ?

Visgir1 Sat 06-Nov-21 12:44:46

No

Baggs Sat 06-Nov-21 12:47:05

The answer to what, maiz?

Grantanow Sat 06-Nov-21 12:50:55

Certainly not, now or later. I think the Commissioner, Kathryn Stone, should be recognised with a peerage or a decoration.

MaizieD Sat 06-Nov-21 13:09:05

Baggs

The answer to what, maiz?

The answer to:

'Were MPs told that if they voted against the amendment money would be withheld from their constituencies?'

Baggs Sat 06-Nov-21 13:11:14

MaizieD

Baggs

The answer to what, maiz?

The answer to:

'Were MPs told that if they voted against the amendment money would be withheld from their constituencies?'

Thanks.

MaizieD Sat 06-Nov-21 13:12:27

I'm actually quite sure that it's a dead cat. I can't believe, that after all the furore, and the disgust expressed by most of the public, that Johnson would have the brass neck to elevate his mate Paterson.

OTOH He might try to slip him in at a later date when the storm has, he hopes, blown over.

Greta8 Sat 06-Nov-21 13:18:42

Of course not - but knowing Johnson he will be tempted to do so, since he has utter contempt for the opinions of us little people.

eazybee Sat 06-Nov-21 13:26:24

I doubt if this is a serious proposition, just something floated in the media.
And if it is not immediately denied, that is promoted by some as meaning it is true.

MaizieD Sat 06-Nov-21 13:28:45

eazybee

I doubt if this is a serious proposition, just something floated in the media.
And if it is not immediately denied, that is promoted by some as meaning it is true.

Contradicting yourself there, eazybee. If it's not true then why not deny it immediately?

It does make a useful dead cat, though... grin

Dinahmo Sat 06-Nov-21 13:50:55

I sincerely hope not.

DillytheGardener Sat 06-Nov-21 13:59:08

I sincerely hope not, but I imagine if weren’t true the conservative gov would have denied it. My guess is he (Mr Patterson) was offered a peerage to go away.
What a national shame, scandal after scandal, corruption, incompetence, it makes me so embarrassed to say I’m English.

kircubbin2000 Sat 06-Nov-21 14:11:02

No, when he was in N Ireland he was regarded as a nonentity and not that bright. Why elevate him?

TerriBull Sat 06-Nov-21 14:41:57

No!

Lincslass Sat 06-Nov-21 14:42:28

No.

paddyann54 Sat 06-Nov-21 15:25:49

No ,but its the Tory way isn't it,Ruth Davidson who started her "career" as leader with 22% of the vote left with 16% given a seat in the Lords no doubt that wee Dougie Ross will be expecting a reward for HIS failure too.Its all very sad ,thank goodness the party I support doesn't send failed /or even successful Mp's to The Lords ...seems the British government wants inequality to be the order of the day

Wheniwasyourage Sat 06-Nov-21 15:39:47

The thing I find depressing is that the subject has been raised at all, when the man has been found to have broken the rules. Surely that should completely bar him from being offered a peerage. angry

MayBee70 Sat 06-Nov-21 16:06:32

I would imagine they offered him a peerage if he resigned thinking that it would soon become yesterday news…..

Rosie51 Sat 06-Nov-21 16:17:54

My answer to the thread title is a resounding no. I won't speculate on what may or may not have been intimated behind closed doors.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 06-Nov-21 17:03:48

I wouldn’t bet against it.

The sense of entitlement of those wallowing in the sewer is limitless.

MayBee70 Sat 06-Nov-21 17:52:11

They think everyone will forget about it…..

Kittye Sat 06-Nov-21 17:53:37

I know what he should be given..but I don’t think you spell it like that ?