Greta Thunberg is a Pain in the proverbial

Katek ??????
Excellent points.

The insults are think and fast there’s some really nasty old ladies on here, really vicious
Why do you feel so strongly such vitriol against a young girl does she threaten you? what if it was your granddaughter would you want this awful nastiness said about them

If you don’t like her manner if you don’t like what she says don’t listen but the plain nastiness the sarcasm is just horrible and says more about you then it does about her

Can a solution to this be found “now”?

I'd just like to comment on this, because it better be.

We need a solution now. I'm sorry if you find a shouty Swede unpleasant, but we've had 40 years. We've had 24 years since Kyoto, 12 years since Copenhagen and 6 years since Paris. And the action has been pathetic.

Don't blame Greta for wanting it now. Blame the powers that be for thinking they can dodge this, and for thinking that way since before she was born.

A couple of posters have mentioned the fact that Greta always looks angry. Perhaps if you’d seen some of her own documentaries about climate change instead of just watching news clips you might have seen her with her girl friends dancing and singing on a train. And looking very happy.

You genuinely don’t get it, do you Katek. Implying that Greta knew that by her sailing two displaced sailors would fly is just another excuse for closing your eyes to the reality of the situation. Greta is a catalyst. She doesn’t have to know all the details, she needs to shout, stir it up and refuse to be stamped on by ‘adults’ who purport to know more than she does, but actually do very little indeed. The good news is that it matters not at all what Gransnetters think of her, she and others like her are beginning to change the world regardless.

Did everyone watch The Trick on BBC earlier this year? About climategate ,If you missed it I'd recommend you watch it now .The government of this and many other countries have ignored the crisis and hidden facts from the public in no ones interest.Because of these hidden facts we are a whole decade behind where we should be ,Greta Thunberg is informing young people of facts that their governments would rather they didn't know .Its their future we need to save and even all thos who say they and their families weren't contributing to the climate crisis, have in many ways .Its time we all woke up and stopped shooting the messenger !

I generally avoid the "Good post Topsy" kind of posts, but in this case I'll make an exception.

Good post Casdon ??

It’s funny how people on here know so much better, as “in the good old days we used old underpants for dishcloths and I still do” as if that solves the climate crisis along with a bit of recycling. In the good old days people smoked in restaurants and tube trains, they burnt coal till the air was thick with smog, they chucked their sewage and rubbish into the sea and whole species were decimated because of human greed. So not all was environmentally friendly in the past. GT does suggest solutions, I’m sure you’ve all read her book , but no one in power is listening, they all want to hang onto their so called luxuries which will die with them.

can a solution be found now
I believe not. I think the damage well and truly set in many years ago. We can do our best to halt it but we are not going to fix it. The human race will be fire fighting and dam building for many many years.
And that’s without mentioning migration. That’s going to be another huge problem.

I think you're right MerylStreep. We need the mitigations, they need to be planning for that.

Oh I totally get it Casdon, please don’t make that mistake about me, you have no idea how much I get it. What I don’t get is the lemming like attitude of those who fall in behind an 18 year old activist.

Anyhoo, as they say up here, I’ve got things to do which are much more pleasurable than debating a problem with no answer. . Pointless exercise which will become boring and repetitive.

Enjoy your afternoon everyone?

I've got better things to do.

So often, it ends that way...

BTW, I'm no lemming. Long way from being a lemming.

Katek
I’m afraid your wrong ? There is an answer, but greed , money, power supersede the answer.

Alegrias1

^I've got better things to do.^

So often, it ends that way...

BTW, I'm no lemming. Long way from being a lemming.

I’ve rarely got better things to do…
I just start another thread instead

I don’t think Katek is wrong at all Meryl because there are the things that you point out ( all true) and the added point that populations and economies wouldn’t put up with the added stress of the kind of money it would take and the sacrifices needed.In other words, the answer isn’t simple.

Lemon
Maybe I listen, read, watch too much gloom and doom. ?
OH keeps telling me to just think about puppies and Kittens ?

Good program on last night with Chris Packham on world population. For the first time since records began world population is dropping.

lemongrove

I don’t think Katek is wrong at all Meryl because there are the things that you point out ( all true) and the added point that populations and economies wouldn’t put up with the added stress of the kind of money it would take and the sacrifices needed.In other words, the answer isn’t simple.

Well, them doing what they said they would 24 years ago would be a start.

Cos its only going to get harder.

I’m shocked and saddened at how willing people are to metaphorically ‘shoot the messenger’ with playground-style taunts and criticism of her looks and motives.

Please pause for a moment and recognise that continuing as we have been living is absolutely not sustainable. Please stop taking the advertisers’ bait and consuming the very life out of our planet. Please listen to people who are trying to help, whatever shape, colour, age or facial expression they have. And please try, honestly, to imagine what kind of future we are condemning our grandchildren to.

MerylStreep

Lemon
Maybe I listen, read, watch too much gloom and doom. ?
OH keeps telling me to just think about puppies and Kittens ?

Good program on last night with Chris Packham on world population. For the first time since records began world population is dropping.

?Well, I would love a kitten.
Yes, I heard that about populations dropping, it’s something isn’t it?

To all of those criticising GT for her shoutiness and write that there are 1000s of thousands of scientists with years more experience; yes, you are absolutely right, but unless you know one personally, can you name an environmentalist scientist? I can't. Maybe these 1000s of scientists are delighted that they have a shouty spokesperson in Ms Thunberg, maybe they hope that finally people will start listening and lobby their governments to take notice. We have all, teenagers, scientists and others had enough of blah blah blah

Please miss, please miss. ?‍♀️

*Kytek , do you know why China has such huge use of fossil fuels?because the west uses China to make all the stuff we consume daily !!!

This is Jeremy Clarkson writing about Greta in The Sunday Times.

'What she needs is a smacked bottom.'

I have had my knuckles rapped on here for being judgemental - which after consideration I believe I may be - so am loathe to comment, but will just ask if people think what Jeremy has written about this young woman is acceptable?

Scones

This is Jeremy Clarkson writing about Greta in The Sunday Times.

'What she needs is a smacked bottom.'

I have had my knuckles rapped on here for being judgemental - which after consideration I believe I may be - so am loathe to comment, but will just ask if people think what Jeremy has written about this young woman is acceptable?

No, but Jeremy Clarkson is little more than a comedian, or comedic actor, really, and earns a living by saying controversial things.

I'm reminded of that DJ who said Tilly Ramsay was a chubby little thing.

They are weird these people, aren't they?

Unfortunately they have an audience.