Greta Thunberg is a Pain in the proverbial

lemongrove

Dickens the ‘blah blah blah’ in the OP is a quote from GT herself, dismissing what world leaders have to say on global warming.
In any case, if a ( seen as) contentious comment is posted as an OP that doesn’t mean it’s a free for all to insult individual posters on the thread.
It would be really good to post views on either GT and her style of campaigning or the whole issue itself of global warming and what will come from the negotiations in Glasgow and not turning on GN posters.

... it wasn't the "blah, blah, blah" that was offensive - and yes, I know that Greta herself made that comment.

The original post - calling her a "brat" - was a fairly direct call to us to verbally bully, demean and denigrate an 18 year old girl with Asperger's.

We all know that online bullying is a 'thing' and I think the tone of the OP - not the opinion, we're all entitled to one - is shameful.

It's a shame that GN doesn't have the 'poll' facility so that people could have voted without comment.

Dickens the ‘blah blah blah’ in the OP is a quote from GT herself, dismissing what world leaders have to say on global warming.
In any case, if a ( seen as) contentious comment is posted as an OP that doesn’t mean it’s a free for all to insult individual posters on the thread.
It would be really good to post views on either GT and her style of campaigning or the whole issue itself of global warming and what will come from the negotiations in Glasgow and not turning on GN posters.

lemongrove

Look, for all those getting so worked up.....this is a forum for opinions mainly, and now and then, depending on the thread for some facts.
So....be tolerant and have your opinion and allow others to have theirs.If it doesn’t accord with your own, then so be it.
Stop the digs and insults, it’s ridiculous.

... I've no problem with those whose opinions differs from mine - in fact, I've sometimes learned from them.

It's not the opinions, nor the facts, it's the way some of them are expressed.

You say "stop the digs and insults"... I think we were on course for those insults from the point of the original posting which set the tone.

What sort of business are we in here if we can't call out people who aim personal insult after insult at a young woman? Are you suggesting we stand by silently?

You and many others have pointed out how hatred online creates problems in the real world. I don't think we should be indulging the level of unkindness that we witnessed on here today.

If that makes me intolerant then I will have to live with that.

Since you refuse to see it Scones not much point in engaging with you on it.
Perhaps some respect for other Gransnetters and allowing them their own views was too much to ask.
That doesn’t mean not picking up people who post wrong facts, but allowing without insult their own opinion on the subject of this thread, Greta Thunberg.

No, it was a genuine question. The entire concept of this thread was based on an OP constructed of dig and insult. Thereafter followed insult after dig after insult.

Shall I have my opinions and facts chat again?

Nah, not worth it.

Sick of being lectured about everything under the sun by young people with little experience of life. She may have a communication disorder, but that doesn’t excuse her rudeness and intolerance. And I’d like to know how she’s offsetting her own carbon footprint because she certainly gets around !!

I mean the digs and insults aimed at fellow Gransnetters for daring to have an opinion that doesn’t accord with yours or some others Scones ( as you know.)

Do you mean the digs and insults directed at the 18 year old woman at the centre of this thread?

To be sure lemongrove- but it started with the 'title'.

I won't forget it, not because of the insults, or the 'judgements' - but because it is so so important.

Look, for all those getting so worked up.....this is a forum for opinions mainly, and now and then, depending on the thread for some facts.
So....be tolerant and have your opinion and allow others to have theirs.If it doesn’t accord with your own, then so be it.
Stop the digs and insults, it’s ridiculous.

"You’re taking this thread way too seriously.
I’d have forgotten it by tomorrow, as would most of us."

... some of the comments have been personal, nasty, and spiteful.

You might have forgotten it by tomorrow so you can be dismissive of others, but some of us find this kind of bullying worrying.

So, yeah, I for one will take this thread "far too seriously".

little Miss Thunberg

Another way to insult her. This time by infantilizing her.

If you read about her, watch her documentary or actually listen to what she says, it would be obvious that she's not being manipulated. I can only think that people who say that just cannot believe that a young woman can be as impressive as she is so they have to assume that there's something behind her amazing impact.

"Little Miss Thunberg" could have us all for breakfast and spit out the bones from her cross little face. (Except she's vegan of course ?)

I admire her . This is the younger generation who are worried about the world we are leaving them. She ( and her followers) are the ones who have to put this situation right.
Better than smoking drugs on a street corner or living on benefit. She's not a child she's 18, quite old enough to see the wrong our generation has done. Good for her.

I admit to having somewhat mixed feelings about little Miss Thunberg.
Although she can come across as an annoying teen, I agree with those who say she is being manipulated.

She’s quite a marketable commodity though isn’t she? Such passionately held views in an 18 year old who looks not a day over 12 must be unusual.
Her permanently cross little face is bound to attract criticism and of course she is a gift to cartoonists, some of whom have captured her to a t, especially those who made her Spitting Image puppet!

Thank God Greta has come along. Our poor overheating world needs her so much.

Summerlove

Kandinsky

Scones

You’re taking this thread way too seriously.
I’d have forgotten it by tomorrow, as would most of us.

Yes, and that’s the problem

And this is exactly what she is saying. I do accept the 'shove it up their **' comment was not very clever or helpful-

but listen to the essence and come back and say she is a 'brat'. Yes, for decades people have made promises and then forgot by the next day- and that is the whole point!

fb.watch/97P70Zmll1/

You see Kandinsky, I and many others do take things seriously and so to know some people are so superficial, spiteful and careless about the important things, the things that matter like kindness, decency, the environment and leaving a good legacy rather than a trail of ugliness is pretty hard to stomach.

Kandinsky

Scones

You’re taking this thread way too seriously.
I’d have forgotten it by tomorrow, as would most of us.

Yes, and that’s the problem

Scones

All the criticism of Greta on this thread has been personal. We have described her as: -

A smug opinionated spoilt brat, who reminds me of an aggressive cabbage patch doll.
A brat.
A slip of a girl.
Opinionated.
Shrill.
Unpopular because she is always angry.
A pain in the proverbial.
Disturbed.
Unhappy.
Bloody irritating.

Apparently this is ok because it is just 'opinion' and only two of the posts constituted actual 'hate'. I don't think that's ok.

I haven't found one criticism of her that was based on something she was actually doing wrong - some harm she is causing. All just entirely personal.

Based on evidence here I reckon some posters would have criticised Emily Davison for spoiling a good day out at the races.

Why do we speak about other people like this? What is wrong with us that we believe we are entitled to speak like this about another human being? She is a young woman who we, as the older generation should be encouraging and acting as role model for. On the basis of this thread I feel pretty much ashamed of myself for spending time with some of you folks.

It's sad

It's not Greta I find 'a pain in the proverbial' but the ladies in red who seem to do nothing but weave through the demonstration.

Scones

You’re taking this thread way too seriously.
I’d have forgotten it by tomorrow, as would most of us.