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Keeping Royal Secrets

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Alegrias1 Sun 21-Nov-21 09:57:51

We are often told on here that despite the financial or democratic problems with the system, having a Royal Family provides continuity and something to fall back in in times of crisis, such as pandemics. So what do we think of this quote from the Sunday Herald this morning, regarding whether certain Royal papers should be released. In this case it should be noted that the papers already belong to belong to the tax payer but we’re not allowed to see the content.

Protecting the dignity of the Queen and working members of the royal family by protecting their privacy in truly private matters preserves their ability to discharge their duties in their fundamental and central constitutional role, not least of unifying the nations (as was seen during the depths of the current pandemic). Roger Smethurst, head of knowledge and information at the Cabinet Office.

On other words, if we know what they were really like in private, we’d never be taken in by their idealised images. They need to keep some things secret because they don’t fit with the image they want to portray.

Thoughts?

Lucca Fri 03-Dec-21 15:04:06

Anniebach

Elected head of state ? Brings to mind , Boris or Corbyn ,

Yes , the only possible alternatives to a monarch obviously.

I feel your pain Alegrias !!

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 03-Dec-21 15:10:21

Grany says there won’t be a revolution Calistemon. I’m still trying to work out how it’s going to happen. I expect she will enlighten me.

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 15:31:42

And there came a day that all the people in the Kingdom came to realise that having a Head of State whose ancestors had been good at fighting a thousand years ago is such an old fashioned idea that they couldn't live with it any longer. They finally understood that having their country's image defined by little old ladies/men in ermine with pointy, jewelled hats wasn't the actions of a grown up country.

So they all got together and asked the old chap in the ermine if he would please go and live in one of his many houses and not bother opening things and signing things any more, because they wanted a person who was more like them and knew how to squeeze their own toothpaste.

And the old chap in ermine said thank goodness and toddled off to a quiet retirement while the people chose one of their own to shake hands with presidents and be the face of the country.

And they all lived happily ever after.

wink

MaizieD Fri 03-Dec-21 15:54:57

while the people chose one of their own to shake hands with presidents and be the face of the country.

That's the bit that worries me the most.

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 15:57:55

Aye, I've said it before and I'll say it again...

Not all its cracked up to be, this democracy malarkey.

Much better to trust in our betters and to rely on a rich, privileged family who think a hard day's work is going to 2 polo matches in one day.

MaizieD Fri 03-Dec-21 16:02:13

Left to choose, Alegrias, 'the people' chose Boris Johnson. I couldn't live with the thought of chancing that level of stupidity again.

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 16:05:08

Like I said, best get rid of this democracy lark. People can't be trusted. Best just stick with the posh folks, they'll see us right.

And we'll be chancing that again in a couple of years, because that's how electing people to parliament works.

Just listen to what you're saying!! grin

Grany Fri 03-Dec-21 16:07:00

Alegrias1

And there came a day that all the people in the Kingdom came to realise that having a Head of State whose ancestors had been good at fighting a thousand years ago is such an old fashioned idea that they couldn't live with it any longer. They finally understood that having their country's image defined by little old ladies/men in ermine with pointy, jewelled hats wasn't the actions of a grown up country.

So they all got together and asked the old chap in the ermine if he would please go and live in one of his many houses and not bother opening things and signing things any more, because they wanted a person who was more like them and knew how to squeeze their own toothpaste.

And the old chap in ermine said thank goodness and toddled off to a quiet retirement while the people chose one of their own to shake hands with presidents and be the face of the country.

And they all lived happily ever after.

wink

Bravo ?

Grany Fri 03-Dec-21 16:07:28

Alegrias1

Aye, I've said it before and I'll say it again...

Not all its cracked up to be, this democracy malarkey.

Much better to trust in our betters and to rely on a rich, privileged family who think a hard day's work is going to 2 polo matches in one day.

Well Said

MissAdventure Fri 03-Dec-21 16:26:38

I do like a story with a happy ending.
smile

Calistemon Fri 03-Dec-21 16:36:26

Looks like we're all in agreement!

?

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 03-Dec-21 16:40:25

And they all lived happily ever after, until the next election…

MissAdventure Fri 03-Dec-21 16:40:55

grin

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 17:01:16

Germanshepherdsmum

And they all lived happily ever after, until the next election…

...when they realised that they were, indeed, grown ups who didn't have to rely on pretty princesses and dashing princes to make their country valid, so they chose an ex-NHS worker who embodied the best aspects of the British character.

Then they were even happier and the rest of the world said, what a great country they are again. smile

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 03-Dec-21 17:06:15

…when during campaigning they found out what terrible things their esteemed leader had been doing and how much of their money had found its way into his Swiss bank account and each and every one of them decided that the old ways of their forefathers were indeed better.

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 17:10:24

And they said, oh yes, we're much better off a serfs. None of the responsibility. And the country slid into the obscurity they had craved since 2016 because they couldn't set up a decent democracy.

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 17:11:48

Then the Scots said sod this for a game of soldiers and set up a proper country of their own, and asked the Welsh and the Northern Irish to join them.

grin

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 03-Dec-21 17:16:29

And all the English serfs were overjoyed at this and couldn’t believe their luck.

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 17:19:47

Because they could continue with their cap doffing and knew that they had found their deferential little place in the world.

While the Celts had a party. ?

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 03-Dec-21 17:23:33

A covid compliant party of course, like the English one! And then the Celts started to argue about who should be their leader, or if they should have three different leaders …

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 17:25:51

grin

Anniebach Fri 03-Dec-21 17:48:58

Would the president of this Celt utopia be Scots, Irish or Welsh ?

A president’s official residents in Scotland, Ireland and Wales,

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 17:52:59

Anniebach

Would the president of this Celt utopia be Scots, Irish or Welsh ?

A president’s official residents in Scotland, Ireland and Wales,

I don't know. People could stand for election then we'd vote for them ?.

Calistemon Fri 03-Dec-21 17:56:44

Alegrias1

Then the Scots said sod this for a game of soldiers and set up a proper country of their own, and asked the Welsh and the Northern Irish to join them.

grin

Sod that for a game of soldiers!

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 03-Dec-21 17:58:45

I see the makings for a big fight there! Wee Nicola will expect to be in charge and that won’t suit, will it? The Celts will be begging the English monarchy to step in and help stop the fighting…?