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Keeping Royal Secrets

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Alegrias1 Sun 21-Nov-21 09:57:51

We are often told on here that despite the financial or democratic problems with the system, having a Royal Family provides continuity and something to fall back in in times of crisis, such as pandemics. So what do we think of this quote from the Sunday Herald this morning, regarding whether certain Royal papers should be released. In this case it should be noted that the papers already belong to belong to the tax payer but we’re not allowed to see the content.

Protecting the dignity of the Queen and working members of the royal family by protecting their privacy in truly private matters preserves their ability to discharge their duties in their fundamental and central constitutional role, not least of unifying the nations (as was seen during the depths of the current pandemic). Roger Smethurst, head of knowledge and information at the Cabinet Office.

On other words, if we know what they were really like in private, we’d never be taken in by their idealised images. They need to keep some things secret because they don’t fit with the image they want to portray.

Thoughts?

Grany Sun 05-Dec-21 11:29:27

Why do the royals keep their wills secret? To stop the public seeing just how rich they are.

If the true scale of their wealth were revealed, taxpayers might question why they pay so much to fund them, says author David McClure

PC accused of 'staggering hypocrisy' as plane flies 125 miles to pick him up
Critics say Prince Charles should have taken an electric vehicle to the Voyager aircraft’s usual home, RAF Brize Norton, in Oxfordshire rather than it being flown to Suffolk

An investigation into the cash for honours scandal that hit the Prince's Foundation has found that Prince Charles' right hand man of 40-years, Michael Fawcett, DID conspire with fixers to offer a Saudi billionaire a knighthood and British citizenship in exchange for donations.

What they've not done is investigate or comment on Prince Charles's involvement in this shabby affair. How does Fawcett acquire honours or meetings with Charles without Charles's knowledge and help?
Chris Ship

varian Fri 03-Dec-21 18:57:11

Not everyone thinks it's OK.

We have a SHAM DEMOCRACY where a government can gain absolute power on the basis of a minority vote.

That is not OK.

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 18:25:37

They do now though, when we actually vote for governments with political power. And everybody thinks that's ok.

Anniebach Fri 03-Dec-21 18:23:57

England wouldn’t have a vote

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 18:17:50

Anniebach

Scotland’s population 5 million , Wales 3 million , mmmmmm

And England's population 55 million...I

mmmmm

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 18:14:16

Germanshepherdsmum

I see the makings for a big fight there! Wee Nicola will expect to be in charge and that won’t suit, will it? The Celts will be begging the English monarchy to step in and help stop the fighting…?

I think we learnt our lesson last time...when we asked Longshanks who should be in charge. We won't be doing that again!

Calistemon Fri 03-Dec-21 18:02:04

and the Northern Irish to join them

Some might, some will want to join their Southern neighbours.

Anniebach Fri 03-Dec-21 18:00:33

Scotland’s population 5 million , Wales 3 million , mmmmmm

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 03-Dec-21 18:00:24

Sorry, I should have said ‘makings of’. Correctness at all times in these matters of State.?

Calistemon Fri 03-Dec-21 18:00:20

Germanshepherdsmum

I see the makings for a big fight there! Wee Nicola will expect to be in charge and that won’t suit, will it? The Celts will be begging the English monarchy to step in and help stop the fighting…?

God bless The Prince of Wales!

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 03-Dec-21 17:58:45

I see the makings for a big fight there! Wee Nicola will expect to be in charge and that won’t suit, will it? The Celts will be begging the English monarchy to step in and help stop the fighting…?

Calistemon Fri 03-Dec-21 17:56:44

Alegrias1

Then the Scots said sod this for a game of soldiers and set up a proper country of their own, and asked the Welsh and the Northern Irish to join them.

grin

Sod that for a game of soldiers!

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 17:52:59

Anniebach

Would the president of this Celt utopia be Scots, Irish or Welsh ?

A president’s official residents in Scotland, Ireland and Wales,

I don't know. People could stand for election then we'd vote for them ?.

Anniebach Fri 03-Dec-21 17:48:58

Would the president of this Celt utopia be Scots, Irish or Welsh ?

A president’s official residents in Scotland, Ireland and Wales,

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 17:25:51

grin

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 03-Dec-21 17:23:33

A covid compliant party of course, like the English one! And then the Celts started to argue about who should be their leader, or if they should have three different leaders …

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 17:19:47

Because they could continue with their cap doffing and knew that they had found their deferential little place in the world.

While the Celts had a party. ?

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 03-Dec-21 17:16:29

And all the English serfs were overjoyed at this and couldn’t believe their luck.

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 17:11:48

Then the Scots said sod this for a game of soldiers and set up a proper country of their own, and asked the Welsh and the Northern Irish to join them.

grin

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 17:10:24

And they said, oh yes, we're much better off a serfs. None of the responsibility. And the country slid into the obscurity they had craved since 2016 because they couldn't set up a decent democracy.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 03-Dec-21 17:06:15

…when during campaigning they found out what terrible things their esteemed leader had been doing and how much of their money had found its way into his Swiss bank account and each and every one of them decided that the old ways of their forefathers were indeed better.

Alegrias1 Fri 03-Dec-21 17:01:16

Germanshepherdsmum

And they all lived happily ever after, until the next election…

...when they realised that they were, indeed, grown ups who didn't have to rely on pretty princesses and dashing princes to make their country valid, so they chose an ex-NHS worker who embodied the best aspects of the British character.

Then they were even happier and the rest of the world said, what a great country they are again. smile

MissAdventure Fri 03-Dec-21 16:40:55

grin

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 03-Dec-21 16:40:25

And they all lived happily ever after, until the next election…

Calistemon Fri 03-Dec-21 16:36:26

Looks like we're all in agreement!

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