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Don’t usually get involved in the politics thread but….

(12 Posts)
Shinamae Mon 22-Nov-21 11:02:35

I would like your views on this please…

Kali2 Mon 22-Nov-21 11:06:01

Just one more lie, one more promise broken - that bottom of the barrel is indeed VERY low indeed.

Witzend Mon 22-Nov-21 11:08:58

This is only for the ‘personal care’ element of costs, isn’t it? Not the ‘board’ element, which I would imagine is by far the greater part of care home fees. I have no idea how they work out the different percentage elements, though. 80/20? 70/30?

Mancjules Mon 22-Nov-21 11:12:45

So it looks like if you have a low value house you lose most of it...but if you are lucky enough to own a house worth much more you benefit...yet we are all being taxed to support this debacle?angry

eazybee Mon 22-Nov-21 11:14:27

I would suggest a percentage of the value of the house would be the fairest.
My father paid for his nursing home care with his life savings and the money from the sale from his house, at a time when those who could pay paid extra to cover those who could not.
So to me , this is an improvement.

Teacheranne Mon 22-Nov-21 12:18:07

I think the headline that Northerners will be most affected is slightly misleading. It’s true that houses are lower value in parts of the country so people might end up using all the money from a house sale to fund their care before the cap is reached. But lower priced housing is not exclusively in the North, I think I’m correct in thinking there are some very low prices in other parts of the country.

Also if someone does not own a house and has say £30,000 in savings, they will receive state aid at the same time wherever they live - although care home fees do vary across the country.

As someone directly affected, my mum lives in a care home and has already paid over £88,000 for her care fees, I am very interested in this. The main question I have is how the personal care and the board element are going to be calculated. I suspect that as only personal care part is going to be counted towards the cap, that portion will be as low as they can make it.

For people with dementia who are often in care because they no longer have the capacity to make the right decisions to keep themselves safe, there might be no significant health needs so they will continue to pay the majority of their care home fees and never reach the cap. Hence it is likely that my mum, with dementia but not on any medication and with no nursing needs, will still use all her savings and have to sell her house.

As soon as I read the proposals, I realised that it does not change things for many care home residents and this latest watering down makes no difference. It boils down to the continuing decision to deem dementia as a social illness rather than a medical one.

Teacheranne Mon 22-Nov-21 12:22:41

I think this map explains my opinion about house prices

Urmstongran Mon 22-Nov-21 12:31:15

Mancjules

So it looks like if you have a low value house you lose most of it...but if you are lucky enough to own a house worth much more you benefit...yet we are all being taxed to support this debacle?angry

Correct Mancjules. Just gotta hope we don’t need Care!

Dinahmo Mon 22-Nov-21 15:11:01

It's divide and rule again. Pitting the poorest against the more wealthy.

Casdon Mon 22-Nov-21 15:16:40

The Bill doesn’t affect Wales though Teachera ne, so it is true that the impact will mostly be felt in the north of England - or at least, north of Watford Gap!

AGAA4 Mon 22-Nov-21 15:32:13

Glad about that Casdon as my little place would soon be swallowed up.
Looks like bad news for those in England with similar properties.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 22-Nov-21 15:35:16

U-turn - I bet