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If Peppa Pig is now the symbol of global Britain, what have you got to lose Mr Farage?

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Urmstongran Mon 22-Nov-21 16:09:05

He says in the Telegraph just now:

“ ...as the official number of arrivals for 2021 heads towards 25,000 (we still don’t have the Home Office figures for Tuesday 16 November) it does seem as though something is beginning to change. Reports are circulating that the Prime Minister has become fretful. As well he should. On his watch, the mantra of “taking back control” of our borders has descended into farce.

The biggest problem Boris Johnson faces is not the sheer impracticality and cost to the public purse of housing, clothing, feeding and giving free healthcare and education to huge numbers of people who have chosen to leave the safety of France to come to this country. Neither is it the daily expense of conducting the Channel operations. Instead, it is the threat to Britain’s national security and the safety of its citizens. Johnson is ultimately responsible for guarding his people. This is the sacred duty of any prime minister. It should override all others. Yet the present occupant of 10 Downing Street seems to have abandoned his post.”

lemongrove Wed 24-Nov-21 09:02:20

Actually.....I didn’t quote the deleted post, simply said that it should be possible to post opinions without any personal attacks.
Shrug.

lemongrove Wed 24-Nov-21 08:37:58

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Lucca Wed 24-Nov-21 08:35:59

Oh I do dislike some words/expressions…..one being “woke”. Then there’s “playing the race card”

Iam64 Wed 24-Nov-21 08:30:55

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Maudi Wed 24-Nov-21 08:25:47

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Lucca Wed 24-Nov-21 08:23:50

vegansrock

There are a million job vacancies in the U.K. Just saying…..

Exactly. So many businesses can’t get staff.

vegansrock Wed 24-Nov-21 06:57:21

There are a million job vacancies in the U.K. Just saying…..

GillT57 Tue 23-Nov-21 22:18:38

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growstuff Tue 23-Nov-21 22:08:50

Urmstongran

Oh C’mon ... get real about this. The government has little interest in stopping these rubber dinghies. There are more crossing the Channel because fear has spread amongst would be migrants paying people traffickers to climb into a container.

Is it any wonder they are flocking here in their thousands ……..
www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get

Are you serious? Would you swap your life for that?

Alegrias1 Tue 23-Nov-21 22:08:28

There are thousands fewer migrants than there used to be. You are being manipulated by people who are either ignorant of the facts or have their own agendas, which I assure you, do not include making your life better.

growstuff Tue 23-Nov-21 22:07:30

Maudi

Well said Mr Richard Tice, The Reform Party

Mr Tice said that the government is “woefully” failing in its duty to secure the nation’s borders, arguing that migrants should be turned directly back to France, a safe and prosperous nation from which refugees have no justification to flee from.

No, somebody arriving from France can't be turned directly back to France without being interviewed, at the very least. Everybody has the right to apply for asylum once they have stepped on British soil.

Tice is wrong and lawyers have called him out again and again.

Urmstongran Tue 23-Nov-21 22:04:18

Oh C’mon ... get real about this. The government has little interest in stopping these rubber dinghies. There are more crossing the Channel because fear has spread amongst would be migrants paying people traffickers to climb into a container.

Is it any wonder they are flocking here in their thousands ……..
www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get

Maudi Tue 23-Nov-21 21:59:35

“There will be some difficult discussions with the EU and with France, but this will stop and it will stop fast,” Mr Tice said.

Maudi Tue 23-Nov-21 21:58:53

He argued that the waves of migrant boats would cease within “two or three days” if the government began merely sending them back to France, which he said can be justified under existing international law, a claim which the French have denied.

Maudi Tue 23-Nov-21 21:57:32

Well said Mr Richard Tice, The Reform Party

Mr Tice said that the government is “woefully” failing in its duty to secure the nation’s borders, arguing that migrants should be turned directly back to France, a safe and prosperous nation from which refugees have no justification to flee from.

Kali2 Tue 23-Nov-21 21:52:51

Just can't even begin ...this thread is just so dreadfully appalling.

growstuff Tue 23-Nov-21 21:47:43

How low can people sink?

Alegrias1 Tue 23-Nov-21 21:41:58

This is wicked. Truly wicked.

Override the Human Right Act? Do you hear yourselves?

Lucca Tue 23-Nov-21 21:41:43

Appalling statement

Maudi Tue 23-Nov-21 21:39:25

Well said Sir Edward Leigh Conservative MP for Gainsborough, Lincs. Speaking in the Commons yesterday.

“At the referendum, us Brexiteers told the people that we would take back control. It is clear that, in this aspect, we have lost control. If we tell the most desperate economic migrants in the world, “We will provide a free border taxi service across the channel, we will never deport you and we will put you up in a hotel for as long as you like”, is it any wonder that more and more come? This is now a national emergency. Will the Home Secretary introduce an emergency powers Act to override the Human Rights Act, if necessary, and put people in secure accommodation now? Otherwise, we will not solve the problem”.

Alegrias1 Tue 23-Nov-21 20:08:27

Sometimes I'm just speechless, really.

Iam64 Tue 23-Nov-21 20:05:46

The misinformation posted on this thread about immigration/housing/benefits for asylum seekers/refugees is so depressing. It’s wrong wrong wrong. Oops won’t cur it as an apology when you suggest asylum seekers get on a daily basis what the actually get for a week

What kind of person can suggest border force should physically turn boats, risking life. The Uk takes less of those seeking safety from war torn parts of the world than France or Germany.
Disgusting, racist, selfish attitudes

Urmstongran Tue 23-Nov-21 19:56:47

We do not all have the same outlook or religion Alegrias. To deny this is naive because there are some among us who would do us harm. Ask MI5. They have to be lucky every time. The lone wolf? Just once.

And to be honest - I don’t care about the colour of their faces.

Galaxy Tue 23-Nov-21 19:50:16

If you are operating on being suspicious of a group, I assume most of you avoid men at all costs. Sex is the most reliable predictor of who commits violent crimes. If you dont do that then your safety precautions arent really safety precautions.

Alegrias1 Tue 23-Nov-21 19:46:25

Oh wait, I get it.

You think we are naïve for thinking people are innocent until proven guilty, even if they are brown.

You think we are naïve for thinking that most people are just like us, wherever they come from?

You think we should be suspicious of desperate people coming here because they want to steal our jobs and our houses?

You think Farage has got a point?

I won’t say any more. I’d get banned.