If Peppa Pig is now the symbol of global Britain, what have you got to lose Mr Farage?

Boz

Correct me if I'm wrong but do immigrant families get priority for social housing?
I recently heard of a case, from a bitter grandma, of her granddaughter and young family being allocated a council house. The offer was then rescinded because the Council needed it to house an immigrant family.
You can understand the bitterness.

Asylum seekers don't have any right to social housing. If granted leave to remain in the UK, immigrants are allocated social housing on the same basis as everybody else, unless they're part of a special scheme.

Correct me if I'm wrong but do immigrant families get priority for social housing?
I recently heard of a case, from a bitter grandma, of her granddaughter and young family being allocated a council house. The offer was then rescinded because the Council needed it to house an immigrant family.
You can understand the bitterness.

lemongrove

Some countries don’t give a flying fig about International Law,
But we do in the UK.
In any case, laws/shmawz it’s about the possible deaths of people.

And hoping that maybe we're a bit better than other countries in some respects. I'd like to feel proud of my country and know that we're doing our best. If not, what's all the flag flying stuff about?

What I meant Lemongrove, is that we have people who think it is acceptable to come on to public platforms and say we should be breaking International Law. Even if others aren't so explicit, they support rogues like Farage who set the tone and encourage xenophobia and fear.

There has always been a minority of people who fear the incomers and think that any measures we might want to put in place are acceptable. But it used to be that this was not the mainstream. But here we have a website targeted at older people who are meant to have gained a bit of wisdom because of their age, but there is still a substantial group of people for whom wisdom seems to be a rather nebulous concept.

GillT57 this is a public forum I'm posting my views if you don't agree well that's your problem.

lemongrove

No....it hasn’t Aleg
Some Tory backbenchers means just that.I cannot see it happening in reality.

I agree, but it is disgusting that there are people who loathe foreigners so much that they are hoping for the government to instigate measures that will harm people, potentially kill them, and at the very least will breach International Law. This is without the moral considerations. My answer to the so called crisis? Fast, efficient processing of applications, people able to work if it is possible, and to my mind any country which was in a dire enough state for us to invade ( Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan), then we need to give the citizens sanctuary. We must stop blaming migrants for wanting what we all do; a safe home, a job, food and health for their family.

No....it hasn’t Aleg
Some Tory backbenchers means just that.I cannot see it happening in reality.

Maudi

Poland are breaking International Law at the moment and they are in the EU. Yes we should break International Law and turn the boats back. Whether that will ever happen who knows, I read some Tory backbenchers are urging Pritti Patel to do this but I won't hold my breath. Pritti Patel is useless in my opinion and I was a fan of hers at first.

Well, there we have it.

This country's gone to hell in a hand cart.

Maudi, I am obviously wasting time asking you to apologise for an correct your gross misinformation on your previous post, but reading that you support the breaking of International Law, think we should turn boats back I am frankly disgusted with you.

Poland are breaking International Law at the moment and they are in the EU. Yes we should break International Law and turn the boats back. Whether that will ever happen who knows, I read some Tory backbenchers are urging Pritti Patel to do this but I won't hold my breath. Pritti Patel is useless in my opinion and I was a fan of hers at first.

Maudi, I think your chunk of gross misinformation deserves more than an 'Oops', don't you? Then when you have done that, you can tell us how you would support yourself on £39 per week, to cover the cost of the necessary mobile phone, bus fares to seek legal advice etc., etc., It is ignorant ill informed comments such as yours which get spread around, and believed by people who think that Farage 'has a point'.

Some countries don’t give a flying fig about International Law,
But we do in the UK.
In any case, laws/shmawz it’s about the possible deaths of people.

growstuff

Maudi

I disagree they should push back the dinghies and boats, our so called Border Force and the RNLI are just acting as a ferry service they are helping the people smugglers, the smugglers just say as long as you get to the border they will pick you up.

And break international law?

and drown people?

Maudi

I disagree they should push back the dinghies and boats, our so called Border Force and the RNLI are just acting as a ferry service they are helping the people smugglers, the smugglers just say as long as you get to the border they will pick you up.

And break international law?

I disagree they should push back the dinghies and boats, our so called Border Force and the RNLI are just acting as a ferry service they are helping the people smugglers, the smugglers just say as long as you get to the border they will pick you up.

Maudi

Ooops ?

Ooops?

The reason Channel crossings have increased in such numbers is the mild Autumn/ Winter weather and the fear of hiding in lorries after the awful deaths in a container here.

I know it’s almost an impossible thing to do ( containing migrants coming here by sea/ lorry) but I would never agree to ‘pushbacks’ especially in the Channel.Once in British waters they must/ should complete the journey.
We have seen what some EU countries do regards migrants...
Thinking of Poland in this instance, forcing migrants back over the border into Belarus, even though people have died of cold and hunger in the forests by the border.One man who managed to cross and was in a poor way was taken to hospital in Poland, shouted at, and as soon as they were able they pushed him back over the border again into Belarus.
They say ( just as Austria does) that they don’t care about any rules where migrants are concerned.

But, but- there is no xenophobia or racism involved at all in some of the comments above. They say.

Ooops ?

There's lots of misinformation around immigrants and asylum seekers. I watched a bit of Newsnight last night and learnt that the annual number of asylum seekers now is about half what it used to be. But the pandemic has closed off some of the "traditional" routes for arriving so people are using the routes that still have available, one of which is crossing the channel in small boats.

Sorry I don't know how to just post a bit of this, but the relevant bit starts at about 18 minutes in. I especially like the bit where Emily Maitliss tells that Tory MP that they are running out of people to blame

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0011wwm/newsnight-22112021

Sorry I can't remember who it was but sure it was a government minister on Radio 4 the other day, who admitted that asylum-seekers receive higher welfare payments in France compared to the UK. And no doubt in other EU countries.

All these young fit men, who some people seem to so despise, are coming with the intention to work. If we had a functioning system they could be cleared to stay, or otherwise, and let those accepted find work, instead of languishing for years and years on end, at public expense.

Suffice to say, numbers crossing the Channel were much reduced when we were in the EU!

paddyann54

Maudi you got that spectacularly wrong Asylum seekers get just over £5 a DAY which makes it around £37 a WEEK and a roof over their heads .My GD's other GF works with Asylum seekers and I know this is FACT

But sadly people have seen the original mistaken figures……

Maudi you got that spectacularly wrong Asylum seekers get just over £5 a DAY which makes it around £37 a WEEK and a roof over their heads .My GD's other GF works with Asylum seekers and I know this is FACT

Urmstongran

I’m a big fan of legal immigration. Come here, work and pay your taxes.
That’s great. You are very welcome.

But arrive over here in a rubber dinghy with no papers after paying a people trafficker? Nope.

Anybody is entitled to travel to the UK any way they want. It is not illegal.