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If Peppa Pig is now the symbol of global Britain, what have you got to lose Mr Farage?

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Urmstongran Mon 22-Nov-21 16:09:05

He says in the Telegraph just now:

“ ...as the official number of arrivals for 2021 heads towards 25,000 (we still don’t have the Home Office figures for Tuesday 16 November) it does seem as though something is beginning to change. Reports are circulating that the Prime Minister has become fretful. As well he should. On his watch, the mantra of “taking back control” of our borders has descended into farce.

The biggest problem Boris Johnson faces is not the sheer impracticality and cost to the public purse of housing, clothing, feeding and giving free healthcare and education to huge numbers of people who have chosen to leave the safety of France to come to this country. Neither is it the daily expense of conducting the Channel operations. Instead, it is the threat to Britain’s national security and the safety of its citizens. Johnson is ultimately responsible for guarding his people. This is the sacred duty of any prime minister. It should override all others. Yet the present occupant of 10 Downing Street seems to have abandoned his post.”

growstuff Tue 23-Nov-21 12:44:47

JenniferEccles

I have said before that one possible solution to the immigration crisis is to make it clear that those turning up on our shores illegally will automatically have their asylum application rejected

The idea is to break the business model of the people smugglers, which of course is a very lucrative enterprise for them.

Once the message gets through that it’s hopeless trying, the numbers will drop.

It’s always worth repeating that these migrants have already travelled through several perfectly safe European countries before reaching here, so their claims of escaping war and persecution somehow don’t ring true.

Apologies if I got the date of the failed asylum claim wrong.
There is one though who is still here from 2008.

You mean break international law?

I thought the UK was trying to be seen as a respected country globally.

Alegrias1 Tue 23-Nov-21 12:44:24

Flat screen TVs and top of the range mobile phones, I believe, growstuff

growstuff Tue 23-Nov-21 12:42:55

What else do they get in this so-called endless list?

growstuff Tue 23-Nov-21 12:41:57

Maudi

The so called asylum seekers get £39.64 x 7 = £277.41 per week (this is more than Oaps basic state pension which we have paid tax and insurance contributions for years) each and for each family member and somewhere to live even if their asylum application is refused, they still get the money and somewhere to live. So that is something that needs to be changed. Also they get free healthcare and dental treatment when people (me included because I have recently moved can't find an NHS dentist) the list is endless. So Boris and Pritti Patel instead of all the soundbites about what you are going to do about this crisis and the dinghies full of fit young men, do something to stop them otherwise you have lost my vote.

How do you work that out?

They get £39.63 a WEEK.

JenniferEccles Tue 23-Nov-21 12:17:34

MaizieD I have no idea why you would think a picture of Nigel Farage is offensive just because you don’t like him.
I have never liked Jeremy Corbyn but I am not silly enough to complain if anyone should happen to post a picture of him!

Maudi Tue 23-Nov-21 11:10:13

The so called asylum seekers get £39.64 x 7 = £277.41 per week (this is more than Oaps basic state pension which we have paid tax and insurance contributions for years) each and for each family member and somewhere to live even if their asylum application is refused, they still get the money and somewhere to live. So that is something that needs to be changed. Also they get free healthcare and dental treatment when people (me included because I have recently moved can't find an NHS dentist) the list is endless. So Boris and Pritti Patel instead of all the soundbites about what you are going to do about this crisis and the dinghies full of fit young men, do something to stop them otherwise you have lost my vote.

Kali2 Tue 23-Nov-21 11:02:06

Well Maisie, as said on another thread- there is a picture all over social media- just as predicted. The one with Merkel and Macron splitting sides with laughter, and the caption '... and then he talked about Peppa Pig... to the CBI'

It is now widely predicted that it was all planned- to divert attention to the destruction of the NHS being voted for by Tories in front of our very eyes.

Alegrias1 Tue 23-Nov-21 10:58:01

This is what it looks like when I open this thread on my screen.

Remember Kilroy woz 'ere?

Urmstongran Tue 23-Nov-21 10:10:51

Best ignore my news threads then MaizieD as I like this format. I’m sticking with it as I find a photograph enhances the topic under discussion. We shall just have to agree to disagree. Personal choice.
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Maudi Tue 23-Nov-21 10:02:28

Nigel and Boris are like Marmite you love it or hate it. Nigel certainly gets people talking. I hope he teams up with Richard Tice and The Reform Party.

MaizieD Tue 23-Nov-21 09:37:01

Josianne

No comment on the subject,
But I do quite like pictures with the text. Adds a bit of colour and interest.

I grew out of picture books about 60 years ago. I can cope with unillustrated discussion. Especially when the picture is offensive (and probably meant to be)

Kali2 Tue 23-Nov-21 09:35:46

Indeed. But they voted to get rid of them!

Riverwalk Tue 23-Nov-21 09:34:40

I’m a big fan of legal immigration. Come here, work and pay your taxes.

As workers from the EU were doing.

JenniferEccles Tue 23-Nov-21 09:33:11

I have said before that one possible solution to the immigration crisis is to make it clear that those turning up on our shores illegally will automatically have their asylum application rejected

The idea is to break the business model of the people smugglers, which of course is a very lucrative enterprise for them.

Once the message gets through that it’s hopeless trying, the numbers will drop.

It’s always worth repeating that these migrants have already travelled through several perfectly safe European countries before reaching here, so their claims of escaping war and persecution somehow don’t ring true.

Apologies if I got the date of the failed asylum claim wrong.
There is one though who is still here from 2008.

Robin38 Tue 23-Nov-21 09:30:33

Some great points there Urmstongran. Completely agree with you. ???

Urmstongran Tue 23-Nov-21 09:28:15

I’m a big fan of legal immigration. Come here, work and pay your taxes.
That’s great. You are very welcome.

But arrive over here in a rubber dinghy with no papers after paying a people trafficker? Nope.

Josianne Tue 23-Nov-21 09:28:08

Riverwalk

Josianne

No comment on the subject,
But I do quite like pictures with the text. Adds a bit of colour and interest.

Please don't go putting him on our pictures thread! grin

Certainly not!
That's the beauty of that thread, unspoilt by people pictures!

Kali2 Tue 23-Nov-21 09:26:07

Like Raab, some of you need to have a better grasp of the realities of Geography.

Kali2 Tue 23-Nov-21 09:24:00

Urmstongran

Change our laws? Or at least alter the terms and conditions we currently offer.

Changing Laws will not make any difference!

Lemon, they were coming in 'droves' did you say? Has Brexit helped, or made it 'worse'.

Soon you will be repeating that Brexit had nothing to do with immigration, and you will expect us to believe you!

Riverwalk Tue 23-Nov-21 09:11:15

Josianne

No comment on the subject,
But I do quite like pictures with the text. Adds a bit of colour and interest.

Please don't go putting him on our pictures thread! grin

Riverwalk Tue 23-Nov-21 09:10:10

Sago

We are feeding, clothing, educating and homing an army, a lot of these men mean us harm.

I am with Nigel on this one.

And what is Nigel's solution?

Josianne Tue 23-Nov-21 08:51:18

No comment on the subject,
But I do quite like pictures with the text. Adds a bit of colour and interest.

Lucca Tue 23-Nov-21 08:36:39

Oh me too Maizie.

MaizieD Tue 23-Nov-21 08:26:56

I do wish that Ug hadn't felt the need to illustrate her OP. The sight of the subject gurning at me every time I open the thread makes me feel quite ill... envy

and it's not as if we're children who need pictures to go with the text

Lucca Tue 23-Nov-21 08:19:35

vegansrock

Trouble is Brexit has made this situation worse. It was won on a promise to take control of our borders, even though more migrants came here from non EU countries than EU ones and little had been done to control this. France actually takes more asylum seekers than the U.K. as does Germany and Sweden , so the idea they are “all coming here” is erroneous. Brexit broke all existing controls so no reason to expect EU countries to stop any asylum seekers from travelling to the U.K. and the idea that any country can patrol 100s of miles of coastline day and night is ridiculous. Personnel had been cut from all areas of public service, so no hope of swift processing of asylum claims, meanwhile no ID system means it’s much easier to work illegally in the U.K. The expectation that a Tory government , who have slashed spending on everything over the past 10 years, will suddenly find an efficient and workable answer to this problem is a joke, which like the PMs jokes, is not funny.

Good post