What if everyone knew from an early age that they’d be working until death? Now that’s a depressing thought.
Has anyone else done anything as daft as this?
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omg I am watching Good Morning Britain and apparently Vince Cable thinks retired pensioners who are fit should go back to work. I am 66 and still work through choice (I am trying to save a little bit for emergencies) I will leave my job in June next year.
The guests discussing this are Nina Myskow who thinks it should be a choice and this young guy called Mark Ryan Parsons (from the Apprentice) is saying we should go back to work and stop being 'LAZY' his exact words to Nina were ' Nina, stop making excuses for elderly being LAZY'............I am shocked at his attitude. Some of us have worked over 50 years and we deserve our pensions and the choice to retire. He also said we cost the economy thousands in care, what an upstart. We have paid in for years and supported the care of previous generations, he insists we are living off the younger generation! Nina said the elderly have done their bit and young people should get off the gadgets and get to work. I just can't get over his arrogance, we are not lazy.
What if everyone knew from an early age that they’d be working until death? Now that’s a depressing thought.
I’m 62 and working because the state pension age has been moved from 60 to 66. I had a heart attack shortly after my 60th birthday and ideally would have loved to retire, instead I have 4 more years to go. I have been working since I was 16, funded my degree myself which I did while working. My sister died at 62 and never got to retire. This young man is talking out of his backside.
I still work a bit at 72 but I choose to .Gave up work as a Community Midwife at 55when you worked all day called out at night (could be all night)drive loads of miles and then expected to work all day Totally unsafe and when you say so get told off it they wouldn’t support you if you made a mistake I look after my grandchildren and worked as a night nanny I’ve worked from 16 and younger as I helped in my mothers cafe
I applaud every word of that post Dickens ?
To describe VC as a typical socialist is laughable, ‘champagne’ variety or otherwise.
Lilyflower
Take plenty of no notice. Vince Cable lost his seat for trying to bring in a Mansion Tax which would have resulted in asset rich- cash poor pensioners losing their houses. He is rich himself and a typical Champagne Socialist. Lefties resent anyone who worked hard and remained independent. They want their money to splurge on their clients so they can feel good about themselves. Cable is one of the worst. Just don’t vote him in.
Cable is a social democrat - not a socialist.
And this idea of his has been put forward before - by someone on the benches of the Conservative party.
It was also suggested, after the financial crisis - by another among the right-wing - that pensioners should be discouraged from saving their money - by banks giving them very low interest rates. He thought pensioners had a 'duty' to spend their money to boost the economy.
Then there's Chris Pincher, Conservative Minister of State for Housing, who wants to encourage the old to free up their houses if they are "rattling" around in them so middle-income families can buy them. And he wants to encourage the growth of the 'later living sector' - which means purpose built accommodation for old people to trot off to.
And as a person leaning towards being a "leftie", I can assure you I don't resent any hard-working person who has achieved independence... having worked hard myself.
Neither do I drink champagne.
I am 70 in a few weeks. I work from home part time 4 hours a day. On 2 days a week I finish work, drive 30 miles and look after my DGS (15 months) for 2/3 hours so his lovely mum can get some work hours in. I certainly know which "job" is more demanding, but I enjoy both of them and I plan to carry on for next year. I like the structure that work brings to my day but everyone is different.
Take plenty of no notice. Vince Cable lost his seat for trying to bring in a Mansion Tax which would have resulted in asset rich- cash poor pensioners losing their houses. He is rich himself and a typical Champagne Socialist. Lefties resent anyone who worked hard and remained independent. They want their money to splurge on their clients so they can feel good about themselves. Cable is one of the worst. Just don’t vote him in.
That’s a fair point, but there aren’t enough people doing caring roles so probably not
I agree growstuff, let’s not lump together groups of people and make sweeping statements about them
Calistemon ??That would really make a point of how stupid those comments were.
AlanaV - shall we?
A nationwide posse of pensioners all mobbing the Job Centres demanding jobs!
Would be interesting if we all turn up at the local Job centre on Monday ......over 70 ? can apply but ageism means you wouldn't even get an answer ..........need bus drivers, lorry drivers ...sorry, DVLA holding up all tests and new licences .......volunteers ....sorry, no car so you can only work within walking distance .........SO since we would not be employable how about we claim Jobseeker's allowance, or whatever they call it nowadays ! Worked since I was 15 until I retired .....never claimed any benefits (apart from child allowance when I had a family).. once did three jobs a day (cleaning morning, typing all day as a temp, cleaning again in the evening ...weekends working in a pub restaurant ........
Mumofthree
omg I am watching Good Morning Britain and apparently Vince Cable thinks retired pensioners who are fit should go back to work. I am 66 and still work through choice (I am trying to save a little bit for emergencies) I will leave my job in June next year.
The guests discussing this are Nina Myskow who thinks it should be a choice and this young guy called Mark Ryan Parsons (from the Apprentice) is saying we should go back to work and stop being 'LAZY' his exact words to Nina were ' Nina, stop making excuses for elderly being LAZY'............I am shocked at his attitude. Some of us have worked over 50 years and we deserve our pensions and the choice to retire. He also said we cost the economy thousands in care, what an upstart. We have paid in for years and supported the care of previous generations, he insists we are living off the younger generation! Nina said the elderly have done their bit and young people should get off the gadgets and get to work. I just can't get over his arrogance, we are not lazy.
Ryan Mark was an utter pretentious idiot on The Apprentice. I would give zero credence to his opinion of anything.
I had to take early retirement from my job at 60, to look after my husband who had a life changing stroke the government pay the princely sum of £67.60 to give a minimum of 35 hours care a week , I do a lot more. I save the government a fortune in not having a care package and I am sure there are many more like me out there, These people who spout this rubbish should come a try it .
Calistemon
^If you want to work - then look for a job. I'm 80 and I run a small technical consultancy with my disabled partner for whom I am full-time carer. We do it because we want to.^
Absolutely!
If you want to retire and volunteer then do so
If you want to go to hobby clubs, do courses etc in retirement then do so
If you want to be a domestic goddess/perfect gardener/do sweet Fanny Adams then do so.
If you want to appear on TV spouting rubbish, apply to Good Morning
So a big fat raspberry to Cable, and a big head wobble to the other opinionated nobody.
? with bells on
Many jobs couldn't be carried out at home.

'Coastpath' I think we have parallel lives. My sentiments exactly. I worked damned hard from 16-64. Not including the Saturday jobs from age 13. I bet young Mark also gets Alexa to switch on his coffee machine, open and close his curtains, switch on the lights on his arrival home etc.
Yes I know ?
My imagination is running riot!
But I never said that everyone could work from home, just that there would be wfh opportunities for those who wanted to work and had the skills to do them ?.
"Good morning, I'm your surgeon, I'm working from home therefore your operation this morning is going to be done virtually. Please make sure your kitchen table is well-scrubbed with Dettol before I begin. Please be assured that a virtual anaesthetic works perfectly well if you let yourself go ...... no, don't fall off the table, I can't find your appendix if you do that"
As above.
He sounds a right w*k*
*If you want to appear on TV spouting rubbish, apply to Good Morning*?
No, I know that not all jobs could be done from home, but many could, which would open up possibilities for those that want them and have the skills to do them.
If you want to work - then look for a job. I'm 80 and I run a small technical consultancy with my disabled partner for whom I am full-time carer. We do it because we want to.
Absolutely!
If you want to retire and volunteer then do so
If you want to go to hobby clubs, do courses etc in retirement then do so
If you want to be a domestic goddess/perfect gardener/do sweet Fanny Adams then do so.
If you want to appear on TV spouting rubbish, apply to Good Morning
So a big fat raspberry to Cable, and a big head wobble to the other opinionated nobody.
? with bells on
Many jobs couldn't be carried out at home.
Gumtree
I agree with Vince Cable. I retired three years ago at 75 and miss the excitement and camaraderie of working enormously. I have recently talked to friends who agree that we should start a Job Centre locally for those 65 and over as there are massive numbers of vacant jobs. My idea would be for two people to job share a full time job. This would then enable care giving to continue. There are huge numbers of older people without grandchildren etc. Who would love to have a job, I have discovered during my enquiries.
There's nothing to stop retired people who want to work looking for a job. Except perhaps the prejudice against older workers which exists among some employers.
Vince Cable is wrong - there's no "should" about it. It's purely a personal choice. Oh, and just because you miss the excitement of the workplace, doesn't mean we all do.
The twerp who said that retired people were "lazy" doesn't know what he's talking about. It's well known that retired people look after grandchildren and are often carers for their relatives. They also do a lot of UNPAID voluntary work. Just because this little upstart wants to work until he drops, doesn't mean it should be a yardstick for everyone else. And let's see how he feels when he reaches retirement age.
Cable might be trying to curry favour with the younger working demographic, I don't know and I don't care. I'm sick of politicians pontificating about pensioners and what they should have / do / not do / deserve, etc.
If you want to work - then look for a job. I'm 80 and I run a small technical consultancy with my disabled partner for whom I am full-time carer. We do it because we want to.
So a big fat raspberry to Cable, and a big head wobble to the other opinionated nobody.
Now I'm off to continue with my work and my duties as a carer... no-one is dragging me back into the workplace.
OK, rant over.
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