Vince Cable Pensioners should go back to work

I don't know many who worked in care who are still fit to work after 65. it's incredibly physical and usually involves shifts which can result in sleep problems, eating difficulties. Are our labourers, refuse workers and others who work all winds and weathers still expected to be working at 70? I had a Saturday and holiday jobs from the age of 14 as did all of my friends. Sadly many of those jobs don't seem to be as available as they were and many teenagers don't seem to work as much as we did. There's no easy answer but working people to death probably isn't it.

I do a few hours here and there at the local school for which I am paid a very small amount, and I also do some volunteer work. I'm 74 and fit but I'm not going to work full time till I die. That would be ridiculous after working for over forty years and bringing up two children and looking after two grandchildren.

Cocky little sod he will be old sooner or later I hope he remembers his offence comments then

For many older people if they took up paid work this would result in younger family members giving up work as who would look after the GC for free. Childcare even with all the financial allowances can, for some be extortionate and doesn't always cover the times/ days needed by many parents. Wonder what job the young man will be doing until he drops at say 90 years of age, folk are living longer and longer.

Kc55

I don't know many who worked in care who are still fit to work after 65. it's incredibly physical and usually involves shifts which can result in sleep problems, eating difficulties. Are our labourers, refuse workers and others who work all winds and weathers still expected to be working at 70? I had a Saturday and holiday jobs from the age of 14 as did all of my friends. Sadly many of those jobs don't seem to be as available as they were and many teenagers don't seem to work as much as we did. There's no easy answer but working people to death probably isn't it.

I am nearly 69 and still working in Care albeit part-time

Calistemon Did Vince Cable claim that people are lazy?

growstuff

Calistemon Did Vince Cable claim that people are lazy?

As far as I can tell, it was the article in the Independent, written by Cable, which was behind the slot on GMB.

He was reporting a conference and giving his own views, which, as he himself states, could be seem as provocative. I can't see that he says people are lazy.

Re: Mark Ryan Parsons (or whatever his name is), (I do not watch the apprentice or any other reality programs) but are his parents still getting child benefits, or other such benefits for which the older generation bought for him and siblings if any?

The Voluntary Sector would grind to a halt if all the pensioners want back to work.
Who would take care of disabled and vulnerable relatives also so many look after children.
I watched it and it made to so mad.
Who does he thinks paid taxes for his health care ,education etc .
Us we paid with our taxes not the rich

I don't know the current figures for the UK, but here, as in most other countries in the Western world, we have a significant number of 30+ people who have finished university or college training and who cannot get a job of any kind.

We also have a large number of people who are forced to live and bring up families on social security, or unemployment benefit. Most of them are like the graduates desperate to find work.

Surely, it would make more sense to get everyone in the 30-70 age group in permanent work before encouraging the 70+ group to go back to work.

We have worked, paid taxes, are still paying taxes and contribute quite significantly to society in one way or another,

Anyone calling us lazy does not know what he or she is talking about, and is probably just looking for a section of society to turn into scapegoats who can be blamed for everything that is wrong or difficult.

growstuff

Calistemon Did Vince Cable claim that people are lazy?

No.

I'm being lazy at the moment, as I'm lounging around, peeking at GN.
But I have just been for my booster.

Whether Vince Cable believes older people are lazy or not, I would like to know why he thinks older people should go back to work. That’s it really, just why?

I'm with you Calistemon, I think that's exactly the right job for me in retirement.I understand the pay is good, too, with benefits ( subsidised meals, etc)
Happy to do it as a jobshare - anyone join me?

maddyone

Whether Vince Cable believes older people are lazy or not, I would like to know why he thinks older people should go back to work. That’s it really, just why?

Yes, why?

Mind you, if I got paid well for going on a TV programme and spouting rubbish I might do it!
But it's not work in any meaningful sense, is it.

Chocolatelovinggran

I'm with you Calistemon, I think that's exactly the right job for me in retirement.I understand the pay is good, too, with benefits ( subsidised meals, etc)
Happy to do it as a jobshare - anyone join me?

There's a subsidised bar - and Christmas parties too!

LauraNorderr

I do agree with you all, honestly, but just to play devils advocate...
when we supply free elderly care to our parents and free child care for our adult children are we depriving another person of a paid job?

LauraNorderr it’s a good point, and in addition, there are those who look at older members of any workforce and point out that they are taking a job younger folk are entitled to have.

I am 69 years old. I started to work in my mam’s cafe when I was 13 years old - doing the washing up. Then I helped out at term times and after school. I was paid a small amount which I saved. Then when I was 15 years old I served petrol at a garage, worked on a saturday morning at a hairdressers - washing hair, sweeping up the cutting. 2 years secretarial college with working alongside it. Full time work for a lot of years while bringing up 3 children. I retired from my job early with stress at the age of 65 when I could have retired at 62. Nobody is going to ever call me lazy. Stupid sods!

Mollygo

LauraNorderr

I do agree with you all, honestly, but just to play devils advocate...
when we supply free elderly care to our parents and free child care for our adult children are we depriving another person of a paid job?

LauraNorderr it’s a good point, and in addition, there are those who look at older members of any workforce and point out that they are taking a job younger folk are entitled to have.

That could be argued but not everyone earns enough to pay childcare fees and some elderly people require more care than could be provided within their budget.

maddyone

Whether Vince Cable believes older people are lazy or not, I would like to know why he thinks older people should go back to work. That’s it really, just why?

Did he use the word "should"?

Calistemon

Mollygo

LauraNorderr

I do agree with you all, honestly, but just to play devils advocate...
when we supply free elderly care to our parents and free child care for our adult children are we depriving another person of a paid job?

LauraNorderr it’s a good point, and in addition, there are those who look at older members of any workforce and point out that they are taking a job younger folk are entitled to have.

That could be argued but not everyone earns enough to pay childcare fees and some elderly people require more care than could be provided within their budget.

Maybe there should be more state support for child and elderly care.

Shows how good the idiot from apprentice is if he has to go onto a TV reality show in order to try and get a job!! What's wrong with him? It must be bad.......as for Vince cab!e, I think he needs a face lift a hair transplant, a flabby belly tuck, his disgusting teeth sorting oh ya and do you think he's had a charisma bypass at some time in his 20s? .....if it's open season on insults, buckle up guys-ive got loads!!!!

Remember how he betrayed stdents after thy voted LibDem. He has no right to interfere in the lives of pensioners.

"^But what I’m saying is there’s a lot of pressure on young people like me to foot the bill for the expanding health care services that the elderly require, there’s a higher dependency.^”
Said Parsons

But he misses the point that many retired people do pay tax.

Childcare??? Really? We had........oh ya mum/neighbours/mate/2 mornings at playschool we had to pay for . I actually had only the playschool from aged 2 AND they were only accepted if they were fully potty trained. No special parking spaces.no changing/feeding facilities. .........stingey family allowance for first 2 only........no dropped bus steps. No pushchair priority in buses etc. Steps and hazards everywhere..good heavens im suprised we have any surviving kids at all!! Problem? Everyone is focussed on what they can get and not enough on what they can contribute. I was really stuggling with finances when I had my little family, so I got sterilised as I could not afford any more than 2 children, I didn't just assume that the rest of the working population would pay for any more I carelessly had! The elderly have paid over and over and should be first I queue for any assistance. After all they don't have 30-50 more years to recover from hardship like the younger gens have

Calistemon

"^But what I’m saying is there’s a lot of pressure on young people like me to foot the bill for the expanding health care services that the elderly require, there’s a higher dependency.^”
Said Parsons

But he misses the point that many retired people do pay tax.

He's a twerp, but he does have a point. Younger people pay far more in National Insurance Contributions, which is just another form of taxation, than anybody of the older generation ever did.