Rather than deflect from the conversation about the unvaccinated I'm starting a new thread about whether ID cards should be introduced.
Living in France we are required to have a carte de sejour to prove that we are entitled to residence here. They are a form of ID and for that reason I don't like them, but we live here and have to abide by the rules. We've never been asked to show them. It's not a problem for us but being middle aged/elderly we are unlikely to be asked to show them.
If we were living in the UK I would be opposed to them. We lived in Brixton at the height of the riots and were shocked at the frequency of stop and search requests used by the police against the local young male West Indian population.
Over the years, whenever this has been mentioned, many people will say "if you've done nothing wrong then you've nothing to fear" and these were often people who thought that the police could do no wrong.
It has become more obvious recently that there are "bad eggs" amongst the police and that there have been substantial cover ups. I fear that the compulsory use of ID cards would lead to more abuses.
There are several reports of abuses, for example the black bishop who was stopped because he was a driving an expensive car and it was therefore assumed that he was a drug dealer.
This is not an attack upon the police since I am sure that the majority enter the service for the right reasons but I'm equally sure that some join for the wrong reasons.
Turning to covid passports I don't consider that they are ID cards as such. When we have our jab we are given a printout and we can also download the details on to our phones. When we go to a venue we are required to show them. The first time we did this was back in August for a concert in a church, so we were seated close to other people. However, we felt secure because everybody was vaccinated.
Talking about this to a French friend who, whilst he is vaccinated, does not like the covid passports. I'm not sure that I understood all his reasons - one being China. I suppose that is because our phones are often Chinese but quite what the Chinese govt would do with this info I have no idea.
So, to sum up I'm in favour of covid passports but definitely not in favour of ID cards
) I thought that would be a good starting point.