The North Shropshire Byelection *edited by GNHQ*

Well, I am delighted with the result, not just for the LibDem candidate, but because the people of North Shropshire voted against more of the same, good for them, I am even more delighted that the toxic parties such as UKIP or Remain or whatever they call themselves didn't get a look in, even in this strongly farming, rural, Brexit supporting constituency. I am very amused at the huffy affrontery from some on GN who seem to take being called a Tory as an insult...Tonight I shall raise a glass of wine and toast the new MP and laugh my way through the toe curling bluster and waffle of Johnson and his merry men.

I heard that car crash of an interview, where he kept talking of 'the people', 'the peopl' as if we were a breed of sheep.

Saying that we were not interested in all the tales of sleeze dishonesty, personal and monetary, the lies and the general diregard and contempt of those people he kept talking about.

It is an insult to 'the people' to suggest we do not care about honesty and integrity as long as benefits flow in.

He just does not understand that the problem with the Conservative Party is him.

The 54% of the North Shropshire electroate who didn't vote ysterday, or most of them, are Conservative supporters who couldn't bring themselves to vote for another party, but could not bring themselves to vote Conservative because he is the Prime Minister.

I have just listened to the PM on the BBC website. My ears heard him take responsibility but say that the sleaze, partying and second jobs has nothing to do with the public and we should only be bothering our pretty heads with vaccine rollout and the UK enjoying the fastest growing economy in the history of the universe ( I exaggerated there).
I heard him being critical of the media for reporting evidence of rule breaking. I heard him complaining of people playing politics.
I wanted to throw something at the screen.
However, that is just me and other interpretations of what he said are of course available.

Thanks

As Galaxy said, radio 4 midday
I’ve no doubt it’s one you can find on the bbc web. Absolutely shambolic and shameful

Amazing result.I hope it means the end for Johnson as PM

I have just heard it on radio 4. It was unbelievable. How did we get to this.

Where's it on Iam64?

Is anyone listening to Johnson flumbering around avoiding accepting any responsibility for the defeat
Waffle boffle waffle - all over the place

Bobby! even

Oooops a Booby C?

I know this is cruel of me, and I have no problem with people being follicly challenged ( I am myself, and DH isn’t challenged, he’s totally defeated) but I had to laugh when the news moved to a Zoom chat with the secretary of the 1922 committee, Geoffrey Clifton Brown and someone was doing his hair comb over. I thought men had stopped doing comb overs. Perhaps that’s why he’s in the 1922 committee and not the 2021 one..

Anyone who thinks that this elections was not very significant and indicative, is totally deluded. If a Constituency which has been so so staunchly Conservative for such a long time can turn around like this- can you imagine what will happen in those previously Labour strongholds now they know they have been sold down the river and worse.

Well it’s certainly sent a strong message to the government, and I thought Helen Morgan’s victory speech told it like it is. Problem is, it’s not going to translate the same into a general election on borrowed votes from labour supporters.

When I think of vaccines I think what a good job the NHS. My first thought would not be “what a good job Johnson is doing” ??.

…vaccines, vaccines vaccines….

Johnson on Sky News now. Dead man talking…..

I left the LP after giving Corbyn a year to convince me of his merits. There were none
I re-joined and voted Starmer.
MayBee70 is sadly absolutely right about the extreme left in the LP. Dreadful divisive bullies - like their hero Corbyn. They conspire to undermine Starmer and attempt to dominate constituency parties.
They don’t want to win an election, they want revolution. They need excluding

It is not about demonising Tories, per say- it is saying those who support the current form of Tory, and condone their actions, are part of the problem, and must take some responsibility.

Can’t see a problem with demonising voters who continue to vote for a morally empty corrupt government just because they always have done. Having said that, having campaigned over the past few years with people from all parties ( with the exception of UKIP and it’s various incarnations) I’ve found the extreme left wing of the Labour Party to be the most unpleasant, especially as they hounded me out of our local branch of the Labour Party when I was a member. I have to say that, of all the people I’ve met over the years, when it comes to actual party supporters, I’ve never met with any unpleasantness from any LibDems. But this is a purely personal view of course.

Excellent result, whatever the reason. I think it was tactical voting by LP supporters.

And in order to change government those middle of the road conservatives need to switch to Labour or another party. Apparently they then become 'good people' as opposed to evil Tories. Demonising those who vote Tory is in my view a terrible idea if you want a change in government.
I know you werent saying that Dickens I am just thinking out loud

but they are middle of the road Conservatives and remain so.

As a politically left of centre voter, I'd be fairly content - at the moment - with a government made up of those middle-of-the-roaders type politicians.

Do you think the lib dems are united? They certainly werent when I dipped my toes in the water, it was a battle between liberalism and well the exact opposite to be honest.

It was very significant tactical voting expressing very strong feelings! So yes, VERY significant.

And it can be both a Lib Dem Revival, AND a massive Cons defeat.

As long as Labour is so divided, they will not bounce back. And very few will support the Labour extreme left- those days are gone, aspirations and lives have changed.