Farage; what a chancer and grifter!

Chestnut

Calistemon I agree 'hate-fest' is a horrible term but that is exactly what these threads are. Mention those names and the left-wingers pile in with the malicious comments, no matter what the subject is. I think that is what I dislike so much. This thread was just such one. I think you can have a reasoned discussion without all the nastiness.

Which is precisely why I asked you to say what was good about the trump Johnson Farage Rees mogg group.

It’s odd how criticising those four is described as a hate fest. But the same kind of comments about Corbyn Meghan and Harry for example are not hate fests……

Kandinsky

*I passionately believe that without him Cameron would not have called a Referendum and we wouldn’t have had Brexit*

We all know that’s true.
It’s why people love him.

Gosh that’s upsetting.
I’ll never forget the sight of Farage Hopkins Widdecombe etc guffawing and waving flags with Farage showing his Union jack socks in the European Parliament. Hideously embarrassing.

Kandinsky, I think you forgot to add the "some" between "why" and "people".

Please note, I am being polite, as I could have added extra adjectives between "some" and "people".

Lucca

Chestnut

Calistemon I agree 'hate-fest' is a horrible term but that is exactly what these threads are. Mention those names and the left-wingers pile in with the malicious comments, no matter what the subject is. I think that is what I dislike so much. This thread was just such one. I think you can have a reasoned discussion without all the nastiness.

Which is precisely why I asked you to say what was good about the trump Johnson Farage Rees mogg group.

It’s odd how criticising those four is described as a hate fest. But the same kind of comments about Corbyn Meghan and Harry for example are not hate fests……

I've already said that I mentioned something Rees-Mogg had done which was good on another thread and it was totally ignored in the feeding frenzy of the hate-fest! They are like piranhas. I've tried to explain it's the nastiness I dislike and I don't think Meghan, Harry and Corbyn have been called quite such vicious names (I might be wrong, you'd have to find posts where they were called a ‘pernicious, self interested, hateful idiot’ or a ‘nasty piece of work’).

Lucca

Kandinsky

I passionately believe that without him Cameron would not have called a Referendum and we wouldn’t have had Brexit

We all know that’s true.
It’s why people love him.

Gosh that’s upsetting.
I’ll never forget the sight of Farage Hopkins Widdecombe etc guffawing and waving flags with Farage showing his Union jack socks in the European Parliament. Hideously embarrassing.

Oh Lucca, I also seem to remember some other Brits doing something hideously embarrassing at the European Parliament. Didn't it involve some crazy group wearing stupid t-shirts or something? Can anyone remember?

Lucca

Chestnut

Calistemon I agree 'hate-fest' is a horrible term but that is exactly what these threads are. Mention those names and the left-wingers pile in with the malicious comments, no matter what the subject is. I think that is what I dislike so much. This thread was just such one. I think you can have a reasoned discussion without all the nastiness.

Which is precisely why I asked you to say what was good about the trump Johnson Farage Rees mogg group.

It’s odd how criticising those four is described as a hate fest. But the same kind of comments about Corbyn Meghan and Harry for example are not hate fests……

I didn't.

If you read my post you will see that I really dislike the antagonism that is being whipped up everywhere by those who are fervently in favour of vaccinations and those who are hesitant about the vaccines cor whatever reason. It is stirring up fear and hate.

Coastpath Tue 11-Jan-22 10:52:26 managed to express her or his feelings clearly and reasonably.
I agree.

cor = for

Confused about why my post is quoted here ?

Chestnut

Lucca

Kandinsky

I passionately believe that without him Cameron would not have called a Referendum and we wouldn’t have had Brexit

We all know that’s true.
It’s why people love him.

Gosh that’s upsetting.
I’ll never forget the sight of Farage Hopkins Widdecombe etc guffawing and waving flags with Farage showing his Union jack socks in the European Parliament. Hideously embarrassing.

Oh Lucca, I also seem to remember some other Brits doing something hideously embarrassing at the European Parliament. Didn't it involve some crazy group wearing stupid t-shirts or something? Can anyone remember?

Quite possibly but so what ? The one I mentioned was toe curling.

https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/202201/medium-473977-2019-lib-dems2.jpg https://www.gransnet.com/uploads/talk/202201/medium-206157-2019-lib-dems1.jpg

At least Farage was doing something pro-British. The other group were the Lib Dems and I found them an absolute embarrassment. This behaviour was July 2019 long after the result of the Referendum when the people voted to leave and long after they should have accepted the result:
Remainer Liberal Democrat MEPs strolled into the European Parliament building in Strasbourg wearing bright yellow ‘B******s to Brexit’ t-shirts. The anti-Brexit politicians, had the words 'stop Brexit' written across the front of their tops and the words ‘B******s to Brexit’ on the backs of the t-shirts. While in the chamber, some of the Liberal Democrat MEPs were overheard shouting out the words “stop Brexit”.

I don’t think Scotland and Ireland thought that Farage was being ‘pro British’. Some people forget that they didn’t want to leave the EU and brexit is possibly going to result in the Union splitting up. Which, imo, isn’t very pro British at all.

Still waiting on the positives/good things about these people. Anyone? With Trump I think a lot of Americans liked him because he claimed to be 'saved'. Whether he was or not is known only to him.

nanna8

Still waiting on the positives/good things about these people. Anyone? With Trump I think a lot of Americans liked him because he claimed to be 'saved'. Whether he was or not is known only to him.

You’ll have a long wait I fear. One poster says she mentioned a positive about one of them but won’t repeat it?

Didn’t JRM do something uncharacteristically decent a couple of weeks ago?
Something to do with Income Tax?

What, FannyCornforth, you mean he actually paid some rather than channelling all his money through Ireland or the Cayman Islands?? Surely not.

Wheniwasyourage

What, FannyCornforth, you mean he actually paid some rather than channelling all his money through Ireland or the Cayman Islands?? Surely not.

No, he said that the National Insurance increase was wrong.

Good old Man Of The People, JRM...

I must be delirious Maizie, this politics lark is obviously getting too much for me.
I’d better get back to posting about the Duchess of Cambridge’s hair…

Here is the post about Rees-Mogg.
Quote:
He lobbied Boris and Rishi to scrap the unpalatable £12 billion, 1.25 per cent National Insurance increase, due to kick in this April, just as inflation is predicted to soar a further two per cent. That increase is going to cost middle-income earners around £300 a year, according to the Resolution Foundation.
The unexpected tax was meant to be for controversial social care reform but will first be used to help fund the post-Covid health service catch-up, with many government sources openly fearing the cash will forever be funnelled into the NHS blackhole.
He then went on to suggest that much of the money could be saved if there was a wholescale cull of the lazy civil servants who have used the pandemic to ‘work from home’ and avoid Whitehall at all costs, when, in fact, they’ve been working out on their expensive Peloton bikes and watching episodes of Loose Women in their pants on the sofa.

Just wondering - how does he know that that is what they were doing?

Chestnut

Here is the post about Rees-Mogg.
Quote:
He lobbied Boris and Rishi to scrap the unpalatable £12 billion, 1.25 per cent National Insurance increase, due to kick in this April, just as inflation is predicted to soar a further two per cent. That increase is going to cost middle-income earners around £300 a year, according to the Resolution Foundation.
The unexpected tax was meant to be for controversial social care reform but will first be used to help fund the post-Covid health service catch-up, with many government sources openly fearing the cash will forever be funnelled into the NHS blackhole.
^He then went on to suggest that much of the money could be saved if there was a wholescale cull of the lazy civil servants who have used the pandemic to ‘work from home’ and avoid Whitehall at all costs, when, in fact, they’ve been working out on their expensive Peloton bikes and watching episodes of Loose Women in their pants on the sofa.^

Thank you.
Shame his good action was marred by having to make a facetious remark about “lazy” civil servants working from home,

That is the dry humour of Jacob Rees-Mog which I suppose like any humour is understood by some but not by all. Personally I couldn't stand Billy Connolly but apparently lots of people actually thought he was funny.

I understand dry humour just fine thanks, but ( IMO ) he is not funny he is just supercilious plus he is a high ranking politician and his so called dry humour is inappropriate for example his crack about garlic and refugees.

Sadly, Billy Connolly has never been Leader of the House.

We might have ended up in a better place if he had.

We’d probably be in a better place with Bob Carolgyes and Spit the Dog