Will the Nation accept an apology? Will you?

I think the average voter cares very much. A survey carried out yesterday showed that over 60% of voters thought he should go and even 42% of Conservative voters thought the same.

I am not sure that Mr.Cummings is the only source of the leaks. ITV’s political correspondent is married to a guy who is a senior civil servant in the Cabinet Office.

I wonder how much the average voter cares about this. If there is such a person.
It seems that Boris is depending on his big majority to get him through.
Do you think the PM of an important (?) european nation should have a sense of moral obligation?

If we allow the PM to take credit for the vaccine don’t we have to put on the other side of the scales not only the expensive fiasco of test and trace but worse still the gross neglect of care homes - insufficient protection for care workers and being obliged to take untested patients discharged from hospital? I find that harder to forgive.

You’re right Casdon, he must have been praying this wouldn’t come out. I’m asking how much more will surface. It doesn’t affect my support of the Conservatives though as they as a party stand for more than this. Boris got the job he coveted, got them a big majority and now what a mess.

Crossed post GSM, my comment was for gillyknits.

Can’t you see that Cummings is completely irrelevant to the PM’s actions? The only difference is that now we all know for sure that he lied, because he was forced to tell us. If this hadn’t come to light he would still be guilty, he just wouldn’t have been forced to admit it - and that would be worse.

There is just no excuse.

I’m sure DC is behind a lot of it, nasty little weasel, but I’m not excusing Boris in saying that.

gillyknits

We are being manipulated by Dominic ,Cumming who releases drops of information to tarnish the prime minister.

I’m sure this is true.

Hetty58

I could just as well be grateful for the film 'Contagion' - and Matt Hancock's reaction to it (if you read the link above). A little good luck there!

Not sure what this is about. Loved the film though!

L Kuenssberg

Another Tory MP told me that in the tearoom the PM told him and colleagues 'it's not his fault and he's bravely taking the blame for others' - 'caused much consternation among colleagues' given that he'd just given a public apology

Hetty58

DiscoDancer1975, I'm very grateful for the vaccines too - but towards those who worked so very hard to develop and supply them, not the one who just had oversight - and crowed on about it:

www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n421

He got it done though didn’t he? Just saying....

I could just as well be grateful for the film 'Contagion' - and Matt Hancock's reaction to it (if you read the link above). A little good luck there!

DiscoDancer1975, I'm very grateful for the vaccines too - but towards those who worked so very hard to develop and supply them, not the one who just had oversight - and crowed on about it:

www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n421

I may be missing something but here goes. Remember people who had bbq’s in their gardens, students who gathered together in their accommodation, women drinking coffee in a park bench - being fined. Will they get their cash back, or fines dismissed now
Police officers seen as officious for trying to impose guidance they seemed as confused by as many of the general public
What a shambles
The main thing though is teams are moulded by their leaders. A culture grows up which can be productive and leads to staff having integrity, knowing they’re public servants and accountable - or not. Johnson is the or nit leader

HolySox

Brilliant post and couldn't agree more. I don't give a damn if a bunch of Civil Servants who work together had a drink together a year ago.

To all the left wingers braying for Boris Johnson's head - be careful what you wish for. He is slightly left of centre politically, his replacement is likely to be rather more right wing.

Yes...I would. I’m also grateful for the vaccines, and the efforts made to keep us safe. As I said on another thread, far too much has been made of this damn ‘ party ‘

Roll over Boris, it’s time for the next ‘ morally vacant ‘ minister to take over. There’s so many to choose from!

Does anyone remember when Johnson hosted HIGNFY a few times some years ago? Appalling. I bet those tapes are now tucked away in a very deep drawer. Yes, I know politicians lie, but Johnson has taken it to a new, gold star level. I was thinking about when we last had such a dreadful PM with appalling morals, who lies as easily as he breathes. Probably as far back as Victorian times. Cameron wobbled a bit with allowing the Brexit vote, Blair more than blotted his copy book with the Iraq war and Mrs May should never be allowed to dance in public. Chamberlain was taken in by Hitler and was it Eden who bu*****d up Suez? Yet none of them have left such a nasty taste in the mouth as Johnson. He must go and soon. Some have said he should be left in post for the next GE which the Tories would then lose miserably. But no, I think that would be too much for our country to bear. Labour must win fair and square.

And to add insult to injury he has just hosted a Party Political Broadcast............what a lying t**t!

So, the PM went into the garden at No. 10 not realising he was at a party..............will he now ensure those that were at the party that he claimed was a work event but actually wasn't are fined just like we would have been n the same circumstances?

The apology shrieked insincerity.
But I fear that the inquiry will put a generous gloss on it and conclude that Parliament itself must decide whether it has been misled. Then forward enough of the Tory majority and with one bound he is free.
Very depressing,

It was Hunt who totally ignored the findings of Operation Cygnus when he was health secretary.

lemongrove

Holysox I certainly give Johnson credit for getting Parliament out of the doldrums as regards Brexit, and also give him credit ( and his team) for backing Astra Zenica vaccines and the subsequent roll out of vaccines.The UK is now doing very well for being a more open economy and life is feeling more normal, albeit a new normal.
That’s why he is his own worst enemy with the smaller things.... be it gold wallpaper, staff parties at number ten or any other bungling or lies going on.
I think he has had his chance with being PM and must realise that after May has come and gone, then very likely so will the top job. Am hoping Jeremy Hunt will be chosen as a successor.

But it was Johnson himself who thwarted Mays attempts to get brexit done. He made her life hell.

lemongrove

That wouldn’t make him a bad choice for PM though, because he was considered hardnosed by the NHS ( in his dealings with them) wouldn’t rule him out.It’s more will he be a popular choice with other MP’s and with Conservative members?

Summed it here well by LG . Nearly caused junior doctors to walk out and this was not a threat. Totally unsympathetic to needs, bull headed even tho he stood his ground he didn't do himself any favours in lots of people's eyes, there are ways to do this and he got it wrong.

No not at all! EV I totally agree with you so well said.