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Will the Nation accept an apology? Will you?

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Kali2 Wed 12-Jan-22 12:59:55

I won't, for sure.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 12-Jan-22 18:20:21

The Narcissist's Prayer
(author unknown)

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 12-Jan-22 18:15:06

Why exactly was Jeremy Hunt unpopular with the NHS Visgirl?

Sarnia Wed 12-Jan-22 18:12:03

BlueBelle

NO never voted for him never wanted him hope to see the back of the lot of the conniving cheating lying party before too much longer

Exactly!

lemongrove Wed 12-Jan-22 18:05:34

That wouldn’t make him a bad choice for PM though, because he was considered hardnosed by the NHS ( in his dealings with them) wouldn’t rule him out.It’s more will he be a popular choice with other MP’s and with Conservative members?

Visgir1 Wed 12-Jan-22 18:01:12

lemongrove

Holysox I certainly give Johnson credit for getting Parliament out of the doldrums as regards Brexit, and also give him credit ( and his team) for backing Astra Zenica vaccines and the subsequent roll out of vaccines.The UK is now doing very well for being a more open economy and life is feeling more normal, albeit a new normal.
That’s why he is his own worst enemy with the smaller things.... be it gold wallpaper, staff parties at number ten or any other bungling or lies going on.
I think he has had his chance with being PM and must realise that after May has come and gone, then very likely so will the top job. Am hoping Jeremy Hunt will be chosen as a successor.

Agree...
but Jeremy Hunt? Sorry No.. NHS staff (including me) despised him, not a popular man especially with the Medics.

Farzanah Wed 12-Jan-22 17:54:15

What has surprised me is that Johnson’s dishonesty, lack of integrity and responsibility has been common knowledge for some time, and seemingly the public have come to expect and tolerate such failings, but are now shocked.

What is disappointing is that many other members of parliament must have known about these “gatherings” or even attended, and yet this has only just come to light. Why have they tolerated this seemingly illegal and inappropriate behaviour when many of their constituents were dying alone?

Chestnut Wed 12-Jan-22 17:51:56

lemongrove

Holysox I certainly give Johnson credit for getting Parliament out of the doldrums as regards Brexit, and also give him credit ( and his team) for backing Astra Zenica vaccines and the subsequent roll out of vaccines.The UK is now doing very well for being a more open economy and life is feeling more normal, albeit a new normal.
That’s why he is his own worst enemy with the smaller things.... be it gold wallpaper, staff parties at number ten or any other bungling or lies going on.
I think he has had his chance with being PM and must realise that after May has come and gone, then very likely so will the top job. Am hoping Jeremy Hunt will be chosen as a successor.

Lemongrove is spot on as usual. We certainly appreciate the good things Boris has done but he has let himself down so badly with these ridiculous capers. It's such a shame really. He is a charismatic character who could have done so well if he had behaved himself and been more responsible.

MaizieD Wed 12-Jan-22 17:47:22

Calistemon

It's not just the Opposition parties and voters who are appalled - many Tory MPs are too as are party members and those who voted Conservative, Holysox.

There is no excuse.
It wasn't the only party they held.

And it wasn't the only party he went to. He admitted as much in his 'apology'

Calistemon Wed 12-Jan-22 17:42:18

It's not just the Opposition parties and voters who are appalled - many Tory MPs are too as are party members and those who voted Conservative, Holysox.

There is no excuse.
It wasn't the only party they held.

Boz Wed 12-Jan-22 17:41:59

lemongrove

Holysox I certainly give Johnson credit for getting Parliament out of the doldrums as regards Brexit, and also give him credit ( and his team) for backing Astra Zenica vaccines and the subsequent roll out of vaccines.The UK is now doing very well for being a more open economy and life is feeling more normal, albeit a new normal.
That’s why he is his own worst enemy with the smaller things.... be it gold wallpaper, staff parties at number ten or any other bungling or lies going on.
I think he has had his chance with being PM and must realise that after May has come and gone, then very likely so will the top job. Am hoping Jeremy Hunt will be chosen as a successor.

I totally agree.

lemongrove Wed 12-Jan-22 17:38:37

Baggs

That comment BJ made about sending everyone back inside…. I fail to see how that would have helped. Anyone?

No, it would have been worse really, as they would be inside!
However, to comply with the lockdown laws at the time, then yes they should either have been working or not there at all.

lemongrove Wed 12-Jan-22 17:36:39

Holysox I certainly give Johnson credit for getting Parliament out of the doldrums as regards Brexit, and also give him credit ( and his team) for backing Astra Zenica vaccines and the subsequent roll out of vaccines.The UK is now doing very well for being a more open economy and life is feeling more normal, albeit a new normal.
That’s why he is his own worst enemy with the smaller things.... be it gold wallpaper, staff parties at number ten or any other bungling or lies going on.
I think he has had his chance with being PM and must realise that after May has come and gone, then very likely so will the top job. Am hoping Jeremy Hunt will be chosen as a successor.

paddyann54 Wed 12-Jan-22 17:14:16

As for his great Brexit success,30 mile long queues of lorry on both the French side and the English today .Thats THIRTY MILE LONG QUEUES!!

Baggs Wed 12-Jan-22 17:14:10

That comment BJ made about sending everyone back inside…. I fail to see how that would have helped. Anyone?

MaizieD Wed 12-Jan-22 17:13:12

I love HolySox's use of the word '--gullible--'. Just who does that apply to, I wonder...hmm

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 12-Jan-22 16:57:51

I can’t believe I just read that HS. He’s an inveterate liar. Not an ounce of integrity. He might have been good at winning votes but he’s a stranger to the truth, useless on detail and his judgment of the people appointed to do the detail is highly questionable.

growstuff Wed 12-Jan-22 16:56:02

Hope you're being paid well for your propaganda services HolySox.

Mamie Wed 12-Jan-22 16:54:48

It might be Boris Alegrias1, but I sense a lack of Latin epigrams. ?

MiniMoon Wed 12-Jan-22 16:54:02

I didn't vote for him or his party. He needs to resign now.
He's done nothing but lie the whole time he's been in office.

Kali2 Wed 12-Jan-22 16:52:14

Was just going to write this, brave, very.

Dinahmo Wed 12-Jan-22 16:51:14

Hurrah! For once a Johnson supporter has come out of the closet. Brave if you ask me.

Alegrias1 Wed 12-Jan-22 16:50:16

You've changed your story about vaccines.

Is that you Boris?

Kali2 Wed 12-Jan-22 16:48:44

WOW - just - WOW

HolySox Wed 12-Jan-22 16:45:29

Boris says he saw the garden event as a 'works event'. Seems he wanted to encourage his staff, and suggested it was withinh guidelines (outside, socially distanced) so I believe him. Apology accepted. (i.e. forgiven). Afterall, at the start of things he was meeting people to encourage them, following guidelines as they rolled out, but this led to him getting COVID. So he is/was fully aware of the impact of COVID and has championed the fight against it. Invested in vaccines such that the UK was the first to deliver it. Appalled at the comment above that Boris shouldn't take the credit - of course he should. Posters here expect him to take 'blame' but won't give him credit when due.
And I'll raise BREXIT again but onky in as much that the Tories needed Boris in charge to win the last general election ... but now it's done want him out of the way, hence we are being fed a string of sleaze stories for the gullible public to soak up. I have no doubt some of these have an element of truth but I don't see Boris as any different from other high ranking politicians. If anything he is more open about what he does unlike the highly polished acts of Cameron, May and Blair.
But Boris did get BREXIT done, got the UK to the front of the queue for vaccines and we are enjoying minimal restrictions on daily life now.

Madgran77 Wed 12-Jan-22 16:43:39

Trouble is I don't think anyone else of any party will actually be better!! I have lost all faith in our politics and political systems! Bleugh!