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Part of me wants him to cling on……

(240 Posts)
Esspee Sat 15-Jan-22 08:26:40

……so that the Conservatives are wiped out in the next election.

Your thoughts?

Kali2 Sat 15-Jan-22 10:42:57

A) Brexit has not been fully implemented, partly at the request of the UK as we are not ready and it would cause too much damage and disruption. B) we are 'out' but we still ahve no idea how we are out!!! C) the UK is requesting that the Deal they negotatiated and called perfect and oven-ready and signed - is re-negotiated as it is a disaster. Frost tried- gave up, Truss is currently making a real mess of it.

So yes, we are officially out- but it is costing hear in 100s of ways - so technically and practically, not out at all. Wiht the clear risk that we might end up more out than we ever wanted too, No Deal, and possible not even on WTO- and totally isolated. The USA and EU have made that clear.

Maudi Sat 15-Jan-22 10:42:57

I hope he goes and takes his green agenda pushing wife with him. Yes I voted for him and the Tory party I'm glad we have left the EU and yes I know there are still things left to sort out. I want someone who believes in the UK and will stand up for our country to take his place not some wishy washy like May or Cameron someone like Margaret Thatcher. I would never vote Labour or Lib Dems but if some credible alternative party had a chance I might vote for them.

Kali2 Sat 15-Jan-22 10:44:29

costing dear

Kandinsky Sat 15-Jan-22 10:46:34

Thanks Kali2

rosie1959 Sat 15-Jan-22 10:48:07

MaizieD we don't know who if anybody in his family are positive It's very possible with omicron
Why would he isolate from his children they are not particularly vunerable and its possible it's one of them that has it

Witzend Sat 15-Jan-22 10:50:46

Some Times journalist said exactly the same the other day - or rather he said that all other parties would much prefer him still PM at the next GE.

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 15-Jan-22 10:52:01

The Mail's story on Starmer? The sound that you hear is a barrel being scraped for "news" - any news to take the heat off the PM.

Calistemon Sat 15-Jan-22 10:53:40

Kandinsky

*Brexit done! Really? Some people on here are living in a different universe*

See I genuinely don’t understand this.
Are we still in the EU?
Haven’t we left yet?

Can someone please explain.

Think of it like doing the Hokey Cokey, Kandinsky.

growstuff Sat 15-Jan-22 10:55:03

Kandinsky

*Brexit done! Really? Some people on here are living in a different universe*

See I genuinely don’t understand this.
Are we still in the EU?
Haven’t we left yet?

Can someone please explain.

There's Northern Ireland for a start ...

Brexit is far from "done".

MaizieD Sat 15-Jan-22 10:56:15

I think this tweet tells the truth of it, Rosie

Ina
@gillsiam
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9h
Johnson’s isolating following a positive Coward-19 test.

Why on earth would you think that his children aren't vulnerable, rosie1959? Children are catching covid , being hospitalised and actually dying from it (not in large numbers, but it is happening). One of the prime sources of infection in adults is from their children who have caught covid in school. Parents are being threatened with prosecution for keeping their children off school if a household member tests positive. People are expected to still go to work even if they have a household member testing positive.

Stop defending the bastard.

rosie1959 Sat 15-Jan-22 11:03:54

MaizieD

I think this tweet tells the truth of it, Rosie

Ina
@gillsiam
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9h
Johnson’s isolating following a positive Coward-19 test.

Why on earth would you think that his children aren't vulnerable, rosie1959? Children are catching covid , being hospitalised and actually dying from it (not in large numbers, but it is happening). One of the prime sources of infection in adults is from their children who have caught covid in school. Parents are being threatened with prosecution for keeping their children off school if a household member tests positive. People are expected to still go to work even if they have a household member testing positive.

Stop defending the bastard.

I am not defending him just pointing out what the Covid recommendations are
He doesn’t have it so it’s either Carrie or his children so they can’t both isolate from their children can they
Can’t read the tweet link

Casdon Sat 15-Jan-22 11:09:39

No part of me wants him to hang on, because he’s fundamentally and embarrassingly dishonest, and there’s no mitigation that could change that fact. The Tories are in power for a while yet, so the least that is needed for the UK is somebody in charge who is honest. The best chance the Tories have of winning the next election would be to move from the far right to a more moderate right leader and cabinet, otherwise there is no chance because all the current cabinet are tarnished by association, the policies they have adopted are not popular, and the public won’t forget - particularly as there are doubtless more revelations to come.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 15-Jan-22 11:11:14

The PM has cancelled visits / meetings, it does not necessarily mean he is not working from the No.10 flat. Unless someone from GN is a No.10 mole and can prove he is not working?

There are thousands and thousands of folks still working from home across the U.K.

I am not sure he will still be PM by the May election’s, my money is still on Mr.Sunak (I am still firmly in the anyone but Mr.Gove camp)

MaizieD Sat 15-Jan-22 11:17:59

The PM has cancelled visits / meetings, it does not necessarily mean he is not working from the No.10 flat. Unless someone from GN is a No.10 mole and can prove he is not working?

Oh, I'm sure he is 'working', as his definition of 'work' seems to be getting outside a few glasses of wine grin

westendgirl Sat 15-Jan-22 11:19:11

Operation Save Big Dog....Johnson's plan to save himself by drawing up a list of who should be sacked, is now widely reported .
What has this country been brought to by this man's ambition?
.

mayisay Sat 15-Jan-22 11:19:55

Mmmm no mention of the fact that Remainers, in and out of Parliament, tried for several years after the Referendum, to overturn a democratic vote!

Kali2 Sat 15-Jan-22 11:20:46

Kandinsky

Thanks Kali2

You are welcome.

One could call it

Schrödinger's Brexit...

MaizieD Sat 15-Jan-22 11:21:46

The Tories are in power for a while yet, so the least that is needed for the UK is somebody in charge who is honest.

The thing that scares me, Casdon is that the current front runners for the job of PM are definitely honest about their desire to reduce the UK to a low regulation, low tax, free market economy. In other words, a disaster for most of the UK population.

Parsley3 Sat 15-Jan-22 11:22:56

He is working. He is drawing up a list of officials who will resign over Partygate.
He, always the joker, is calling it Operation Save Big Dog. Oh, how we laughed.

MaizieD Sat 15-Jan-22 11:24:13

mayisay

Mmmm no mention of the fact that Remainers, in and out of Parliament, tried for several years after the Referendum, to overturn a democratic vote!

As they had a perfect right to do, mayisay. We're not a one party fascist state that stifles all opposition yet.

MayBee70 Sat 15-Jan-22 11:26:34

notgran

I'm not here for an argument Alegrias1. You think the cat is a better alternative, fair enough. I thought my post would be treated with a bit more consideration.

I can only assume that you don’t watch parliament today and never listen to any interviews given by members of the shadow cabinet who, quite frankly, are far more ministerial than the idiots we have running the country. And are you paying attention to some of the bills that the government are pushing through parliament at the moment that the opposition are powerless to stop because of the huge majority the Conservatives have. And can I ask you, given that Johnson looks likely to go, who do you think is the best Conservative MP to replace him?

MaizieD Sat 15-Jan-22 11:27:21

rosie1959

MaizieD

I think this tweet tells the truth of it, Rosie

Ina
@gillsiam
·
9h
Johnson’s isolating following a positive Coward-19 test.

Why on earth would you think that his children aren't vulnerable, rosie1959? Children are catching covid , being hospitalised and actually dying from it (not in large numbers, but it is happening). One of the prime sources of infection in adults is from their children who have caught covid in school. Parents are being threatened with prosecution for keeping their children off school if a household member tests positive. People are expected to still go to work even if they have a household member testing positive.

Stop defending the bastard.

I am not defending him just pointing out what the Covid recommendations are
He doesn’t have it so it’s either Carrie or his children so they can’t both isolate from their children can they
Can’t read the tweet link

I can't imagine why you'd need a link to the tweet, but here it is:

twitter.com/gillsiam/status/1482161374520385551

Nannan2 Sat 15-Jan-22 11:29:42

Dear Lord, not Theresa May again! She used to always look like a rabbit caught in headlights!

Calistemon Sat 15-Jan-22 11:29:42

MaizieD

^The PM has cancelled visits / meetings, it does not necessarily mean he is not working from the No.10 flat. Unless someone from GN is a No.10 mole and can prove he is not working?^

Oh, I'm sure he is 'working', as his definition of 'work' seems to be getting outside a few glasses of wine grin

I thought he lived in the no 11 flat - what's he doing with Rishi when he is supposed to be isolating?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 15-Jan-22 11:33:10

The point is if Johnson stays, we will be clueless as to the policies we can look forward to until the next election. Johnson got voted in because, apparently, for Brexit, but that of course was when he was being frog marched and guided by Cummings. Since Cummings left Johnson has lurched from one form of chaos to another.

Johnson has no original ideas of his own - he has no ideas, which is why he is thrall to the ultra right of his party and delivering blow after blow to our democracy.