Can the EU do well without trade with the UK?

Back in the summer I couldmt get sparkling water ? either, tried sainsbury and Asda but after a couple of weeks found some in Aldi.
Very nice with elderflower cordial and ice. Here’s to sunshine ?

MerylStreep

Allsorts
I saw that story on Brixham. ? A record catch.

As said, this in wonderful.

Meanwhile in Yorkshire:

Fisherman across Yorkshire have become increasingly worried for their livelihood after mass of dead sea creatures wash up on shorelines.

Robert Harrison, from Filey in North Yorkshire, said he is "scared" fisherman will be forced out a business amid claims there "isn't a living thing" within three miles of the coast.

His fears have come after reports from residents on the North Yorkshire coast after a mass of dead crabs and rotting lobsters littered the coastline between Marske and Saltburn last year, while further piles of crustaceans were spotted in Seaton Carew and Seaham.

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According to Mr Harrison, fishermen believe they have lost up to 40 miles of the coastline, as crabs and lobster have disappeared from the North Yorkshire coast.

They claim there isn't a living thing within three miles of the coast from Teesport to Scarborough.

Robert Harrison said: "Fisherman will be out of business.

"It will be a disaster, there will be no tourists or anything."

Families with children flood to the picturesque Yorkshire seaside during the summer - but what will happen to tourism without the local produce?

Robert added: "The tourist industry will be knackered this summer.

"No shellfish in the sea, no crabs or lobsters, everything is dead for three miles out.

"Fisherman don't catch much at this time of year but there is hardly any stock left, it's a catastrophe."

Lincslass

Better use of our own produce I would say.

It's a question of taste surely? San Pellegrino tastes different to Perrier, which tastes different to Highland Spring etc etc.

Speaking as a Danish citizen who lives in Denmark, I can tell you that while Brexit was in the offing, all the big firms that exported mainly or at least a great deal of their produce to the UK wonder too whether we could do without British trade.

Public money went into employing more Customs staff to deal with whatever regulations would come to govern trade with the UK and ports were extended, particularly Esbjerg to deal with container lorries heading to or from Britain needing in future to be in the Customs' area longer.

We didn't need to have worried - we can sell all the bacon and other pork products we want to other countries and our dairy produce is being sold increasingly to Germany.

There is also butter being sold cheaper here than it was before - we have for years payed twice what the British did for our own butter because Britain imported so much from us and subsidised imports.

So yes, we are managing nicely without you, thank you, and I believe the same can be said of the rest of the EU.

And we are still importing British goods too. I bought a new bottle of Lea & Perrins Worcester sauce last week. Not that that will help the British econmony in the slightest , as the last bottle lasted six years or so.

It is great about the Cornish fishermen and I understood that much of their catch was now being sold locally. The fishermen have worked hard to retain markets. I saw one chap interviewed who mentioned about sending a load to Europe and it was getting there fast. I wondered how they were doing this as they were very worried about shipments being delayed at borders, a couple of days ago another interview with an exporter and he was sending his catch live in big tanks - a good solution by the sounds of it.
The reports from the East coast about the sea having no living creatures in the sea is very worrying. Has anyone seen any reason why they think this may be happening ? - is it connected to effluent being dumped or anything? It sounds as if it is widespread and not good for anyone.

Why would anyone buy water from abroad, we have beautiful water here from the tap and bottled sparkling or still. How many countries can do that. If you don’t like the taste I would add lemon or lime slices and ice. Buy British everything if you can and help your neighbours. Our water is safe to drink from the tap, I am in a hard water area, leave a jug in the fridge overnight. Tastes fine.

Allsorts , it makes me wonder how many countries in Europe can't do that.

Buy British everything if you can and help your neighbours.

I'll buy what I like, thanks, not what you tell me to. My neighbours are the Europeans.

Alegrias1

^Buy British everything if you can and help your neighbours.^

I'll buy what I like, thanks, not what you tell me to. My neighbours are the Europeans.

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Before covid whenever we went to an event where there were other Brits there were one or two voices who could be heard loudly saying that the Germans would bend over backwards to make sure that they could sell their cars in the UK because it was such a large market. I'm not aware that this has happened - has it?

In my village there are less than 20 Brits living here but there has recently been a division between the Remainers and the Leavers. At first everybody was civil but last summer it became rather fraught, to say the least. One couple accused another couple of being traitors because they had taken French nationality. The second couple had live and worked here for 25 years.

Some of the French were a little pissed off because, as one said to me - they come over here, talk about the size of their house and how much land they have and then want to leave the EU. I sometimes think that they don't realise how insulting that can be to their French neighbours and (former) French friends.

I have also found it hard to understand why would ex pats living in Europe vote to leave. There are a number of retired people dh worked with who despite living in the sunshine, nearly all voted fir Brexit. Being a remainer here in the greyness, that rather pee’d me off, still does, sorry but it does.

As for cars, they have market leading cars with the world out there so am sure that Germany is not relying on us. Why would they.

halfpint1

Allsorts , it makes me wonder how many countries in Europe can't do that.

Sorry halfpin1- what do you mean by the above comment. I am confused, Can't do what.

As for bottled water- totally agree. Never ever buy bottled water, from anywhere.

Only recently started buying fizzy water in summer to add elderflower cordial to. Very refreshing if served on ice. Otherwise it’s Tap water every time, unless I am in Germany where I have always had to argue the point with the waiter who will have refused point blank ( til I argue back). Grrr.

Dinahmo
The stall in the German car sales has nothing to do with Brexit or the pandemic: it’s the shortage of silicone chips. It’s worldwide.

MerylStreep

Dinahmo
The stall in the German car sales has nothing to do with Brexit or the pandemic: it’s the shortage of silicone chips. It’s worldwide.

I didn't know there was a stall in German car sales. My inference really was that the Germans probably don't need the UK market that much.

Silicon.

Silicone is something else entirely.

Dinahmo
As of last August the lowest sales for 20 years.

Alegrias, you drive on our roads, use our hospitals, use our shops, public houses,. Etc. the list goes on. yet none of us are your neighbours? . No one is telling you what to do. I happen to be proud to live in the UK and support it. I dare say those that live in their countries, Germany, Holland and so forth feel the same about where they live. I think on tge whole we all get on. You earn your wages and are free to you choose what to buy and from where.

Allsorts what do you mean? We live in Europe?

Allsorts

Alegrias, you drive on our roads, use our hospitals, use our shops, public houses,. Etc. the list goes on. yet none of us are your neighbours? . No one is telling you what to do. I happen to be proud to live in the UK and support it. I dare say those that live in their countries, Germany, Holland and so forth feel the same about where they live. I think on tge whole we all get on. You earn your wages and are free to you choose what to buy and from where.

What a bizarre post.

Incidentally, Holland isn't a country.

Kali 2 read the post above mine from Allsorts

I meant, what countries in Europe can't provide clean water
in their taps, think France left the 'non potable' water many
years ago. I live in the Volvic region so no problem with
my tap water for sure.

Ah thanks for clarifying. Yes, indeed, certainly most European countries have excellent tap water, and also other 'bottled' waters- linked to all the mountains and old volcanic areas. No need for bottled water here, but plenty available if wanted (why??? but ...)

Alegrias1

Silicon.

Silicone is something else entirely.

Thank you. Brain and fingers are disconnected at the moment.
(I do know the difference) by the way

I don’t understand why the British buy still water when the stuff that comes out of our taps is of excellent quality. But I can’t get sparkling water out of my taps, so I buy bottled, or at least try to. But, like wine, different brands have different tastes and I would like the freedom to buy the one I like best, which is a European brand and I can’t get it anymore.

I think it depends upon where you live. Hard water tastes very different to soft water.