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So far, 2022 is not a good year to be an entitled white man!

(142 Posts)
GillT57 Sun 16-Jan-22 13:22:33

Johnson, Prince Andrew, Djokavic are all having a bad start to their year. Whatever our opinions of any of them, and I am sure we vary, they have all considered themselves to be unfettered by the standards of behaviour, acceptance of legislation that the majority of us adhere to.

Lucca Mon 17-Jan-22 21:35:35

Anniebach

You express sympathy for someone who has suffered a horrific
trauma, I am surprised

Why ? That’s not a nice thing to say to Alegrias

Anniebach Mon 17-Jan-22 21:38:59

Really?

Lucca Mon 17-Jan-22 21:40:46

Yes really. Why do you say that ?

Anniebach Mon 17-Jan-22 21:43:15

I chose to

Blossoming Mon 17-Jan-22 21:52:56

Someone’s feeling bilious.

GillT57 Mon 17-Jan-22 22:02:32

Wow. Nasty.

Callistemon21 Mon 17-Jan-22 22:06:53

Anniebach

I chose to

Annie I know you're feeling bruised, understandably, but my Mum used to say that two wrongs don't make a right.
Rise above it.

?

Alegrias1 Mon 17-Jan-22 22:07:37

I just can't think of anything to say. Best just move on I think.

So, entitled white men...any comments, anyone?

Callistemon21 Mon 17-Jan-22 22:09:58

No.
Except -
Is this a thread about threads?

Anniebach Mon 17-Jan-22 22:15:53

Callisttemon thank you, yes your Mum was right

Kate1949 Mon 17-Jan-22 22:39:11

I'm not sure this is relevant but my lovely, kind, sensitive 35 year old nephew joined in a conversation at work recently and was told by a colleague 'As a white heterosexual male your opinion is irrelevant'.

Doodledog Mon 17-Jan-22 22:45:44

Kate1949

I'm not sure this is relevant but my lovely, kind, sensitive 35 year old nephew joined in a conversation at work recently and was told by a colleague 'As a white heterosexual male your opinion is irrelevant'.

Well, I suppose if the conversation was about black gay women, it may well have been.

Nobody's opinion is relevant to every situation, and maybe he took the comment too personally?

Kamiso Mon 17-Jan-22 22:56:37

Kate1949

I'm not sure this is relevant but my lovely, kind, sensitive 35 year old nephew joined in a conversation at work recently and was told by a colleague 'As a white heterosexual male your opinion is irrelevant'.

The colleague sounds extremely rude and unpleasant. Not worth taking offense of such an unpleasant individual. If he/she didn’t want comments then he/she shouldn’t have spoken in front of him.

Doodledog Mon 17-Jan-22 22:58:01

That's true, too.

Kate1949 Mon 17-Jan-22 22:59:49

Exactly Kamiso Rude and he's so lovely.

GillT57 Mon 17-Jan-22 23:15:52

Your nephew's work colleague was rude.

Kate1949 Mon 17-Jan-22 23:25:14

Doodledog I'm not sure what the conversation was about but under what circumstances is it OK to be so rude and insulting?

maddyone Tue 18-Jan-22 00:12:02

I feel sad that all heterosexual, white, middle class men are lumped together these days. They are not all entitled. They are not all irrelevant. And their opinions are just as valid as anyone else’s opinions. Some are entitled and arrogant, but the vast majority are not.

Doodledog Tue 18-Jan-22 01:24:09

Kate1949

Doodledog I'm not sure what the conversation was about but under what circumstances is it OK to be so rude and insulting?

Exactly three posts above yours I acknowledged that. Not reading posts before criticising is also rude in my book.

Hetty58 Tue 18-Jan-22 01:24:55

maddyone - but the post says 'entitled white man' - and yes, I like to see them thwarted, ridiculed and criticised, because of their (unacceptable) attitude and behaviour.

Doodledog Tue 18-Jan-22 01:27:07

Exactly, Hetty.

diathena Tue 18-Jan-22 02:31:21

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Katie59 Tue 18-Jan-22 04:44:11

BJ, Andrew and Djokovic are all fools in their own way but it has nothing to do with race at all. I’m sure there are fools from other races but not in the headlines at present.

Allsorts Tue 18-Jan-22 04:59:14

Just because a person does not hold the same views, there is no cause to be be rude, as I thought the reply to my original comment was. It is an actual person you are replying to. . I personally do not like the term Entitled White Man, meaning a person not white is above that, apart from the three men mentioned, being white they are all from different backgrounds, the behaviour they have shown is across the board, people who think they are above the rules that others follow, it is different personalities, plenty of women divas about, people that think only their way is correct. To continuously bring race into an argument is not helpful. Thank goodness we are a free country and allowed an opinion.

Katie59 Tue 18-Jan-22 05:02:46

Kate1949

I'm not sure this is relevant but my lovely, kind, sensitive 35 year old nephew joined in a conversation at work recently and was told by a colleague 'As a white heterosexual male your opinion is irrelevant'.

Yes, with so much attention about LGBTQ, race and feminist issues, straight white men get no lookin. It is a fact that they are the only group that are not labeled “disadvantaged” in some way.
Wether the comment that “their opinion is not relevant” depends on the context of the conversation. It might be a very rude interjection or just a statement of reality.