Gransnet forums

News & politics

So far, 2022 is not a good year to be an entitled white man!

(142 Posts)
GillT57 Sun 16-Jan-22 13:22:33

Johnson, Prince Andrew, Djokavic are all having a bad start to their year. Whatever our opinions of any of them, and I am sure we vary, they have all considered themselves to be unfettered by the standards of behaviour, acceptance of legislation that the majority of us adhere to.

nadateturbe Tue 18-Jan-22 06:08:32

Anniebach

I chose to

But why?

GrannyGravy13 Tue 18-Jan-22 07:13:41

The examples credited in the OP are just idiots.

It is possible to be an idiot whatever your colour, your gender, your political persuasions etc.

Entitled white man is just another sound bite designed to cause devision.

BlueBelle Tue 18-Jan-22 07:28:54

I don’t think it matters a hoot whether a man or woman is born into an entitled family or a poor one it’s what they do with that privilege that matters and some mentioned in the original post have used their privilege to walk on others so that’s what matters

MerylStreep Tue 18-Jan-22 07:35:17

maddyone

I feel sad that all heterosexual, white, middle class men are lumped together these days. They are not all entitled. They are not all irrelevant. And their opinions are just as valid as anyone else’s opinions. Some are entitled and arrogant, but the vast majority are not.

Could not agree more. ?

Kandinsky Tue 18-Jan-22 07:40:41

From some of the posts on this forum you’d think non white men never put a foot wrong.
< rolls eyes >

janeainsworth Tue 18-Jan-22 07:59:46

I'm not sure this is relevant but my lovely, kind, sensitive 35 year old nephew joined in a conversation at work recently and was told by a colleague 'As a white heterosexual male your opinion is irrelevant'.

Did anyone consider the possibility that the colleague might have been joking/ironic? Was the comment made by another white heterosexual male, or someone with a protected characteristic?
I wonder what the nephew’s response was.

TerriBull Tue 18-Jan-22 08:12:48

Only three, I suspect there are several more! Frank Lampard for example who it seems can multi task, there's me thinking only women can do that, but no Frank it seems can drive with a phone in one hand and a coffee in the other shock Well that's white men for you, yes all of them, which is millions, possibly several billion, who knows wandering around the planet with their Brahmin top of the heap mentality, sadly a characteristic that no other race or women for that matter share. I'm only sorry I've contributed to the problem having married a white man and then produced two more sad .

What have I done ?sad it's never too late to reflect on the error of our ways.

maddyone Tue 18-Jan-22 08:32:22

I agree that the three men in the original post have behaved dreadfully. Also Frank Lampard, as I saw yesterday behaved badly and wasn’t convicted although apparently driving with a coffee in one hand and his mobile in the other.But the original post is racist. All white men are not entitled although some are, and all black/brown men are not humble although some are.

maddyone Tue 18-Jan-22 08:35:32

Hetty58

maddyone - but the post says 'entitled white man' - and yes, I like to see them thwarted, ridiculed and criticised, because of their (unacceptable) attitude and behaviour.

Thank you Hetty the OP does say entitled. The word white should not be in there because it’s racist in my opinion. I hope my second post addresses the OP more accurately.

maddyone Tue 18-Jan-22 08:37:53

Message deleted by Gransnet. Quotes deleted post

JaneJudge Tue 18-Jan-22 08:44:58

fucking hell is it a full moon?

JaneJudge Tue 18-Jan-22 08:45:58

JaneJudge

fucking hell is it a full moon?

PANIC OVER
It is

TerriBull Tue 18-Jan-22 08:55:05

maddyone

I agree that the three men in the original post have behaved dreadfully. Also Frank Lampard, as I saw yesterday behaved badly and wasn’t convicted although apparently driving with a coffee in one hand and his mobile in the other.But the original post is racist. All white men are not entitled although some are, and all black/brown men are not humble although some are.

.........err shocking and distorted, manipulation and lies confused

I'm not seeing it, well not from maddyone at any rate.

Anniebach Tue 18-Jan-22 08:57:38

Agree with you maddyone

maddyone Tue 18-Jan-22 09:03:48

Am I lying in your opinion Terribull. I’m not sure what I said is a lie.

Thank you Annie.

OnwardandUpward Tue 18-Jan-22 09:12:04

So far it's not been a good year for politicians or the Met having integrity, either. Poor Queen.

Poor Sarah Everard's family and friends.

I also don't think it makes a difference what family someone is born into or what colour their skin is, but how they behave. I know this is last year, but that policeman who killed Sarah Everard was known as "the rapist" by his colleagues. He obviously felt entitled to "help himself" to women against their will and the Met stood by and enabled him. What else have they enabled and hushed up?

TerriBull Tue 18-Jan-22 09:22:46

No absolutely not Maddy

MerylStreep Tue 18-Jan-22 09:56:10

Maddyone
Treat it from whence it came. Don’t waste your energy on such drivel.

maddyone Tue 18-Jan-22 09:57:38

Thank you so much TerriBull and MerylStreep. Appreciated.

Kate1949 Tue 18-Jan-22 10:00:14

Doodledog I'm sorry if my post appeared rude. That certainly wasn't my intention.

nanna8 Tue 18-Jan-22 10:05:24

When I read the original post I just thought of very rich men who have had a lot of advantages in life. Race didn’t enter into it at all. Why are some so totally obsessed with it ? We are all human beings.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 18-Jan-22 10:17:07

nanna8

When I read the original post I just thought of very rich men who have had a lot of advantages in life. Race didn’t enter into it at all. Why are some so totally obsessed with it ? We are all human beings.

The OP states entitled white man

Race was mentioned at the get go.

Pammie1 Tue 18-Jan-22 10:17:52

GrannyGravy13

The examples credited in the OP are just idiots.

It is possible to be an idiot whatever your colour, your gender, your political persuasions etc.

Entitled white man is just another sound bite designed to cause devision.

This.

TerriBull Tue 18-Jan-22 10:21:43

To add to Johnson and Prince Andy, white men not having a good year. It seems white working class boys haven't had good years for a long, long time now, as they languish ignored at the bottom of life's heap, a sort of English version of the Indian caste system "untouchables", that's not to suggest of course that other races have a privileged hierarchy because as we all know you have to be white to lord it over your fellow human being.

Kandinsky Tue 18-Jan-22 10:22:26

The thread title would have been fine if the word ‘white’ hadn’t been added.
Plenty of rich black men behave appallingly - so do poor white men & men of all colours.
So do women.
The thread title was unnecessarily provocative.