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Wonderful News - No more face masks

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LilacChaser Wed 19-Jan-22 13:35:32

That's made my day! I'm delighted and relieved.

At last, some sense from the government. Roll on 26th Jan.

growstuff Thu 20-Jan-22 09:33:39

GrannyGravy13

Seeing the figures soar in Germany and France which have some of the strictest restrictions, mandatory masks, vaccine passports and no jab no entry is food for thought as to whether restrictions do indeed work?

You don't know what the rates would be like without restrictions.

Mollygo Thu 20-Jan-22 09:28:56

LilacChaser

Varian

Yes, I understand probability and once did a short course in it along with several PhD students.

I'm not relying on anecdotal evidence.

Statistics have shown, quite nicely, that when facemask restrictions are brought in, covid levels go up and vice versa. You only have to compare Wales, Scotland and England to see what I mean.

Statistics can prove anything you want.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 20-Jan-22 09:28:20

Seeing the figures soar in Germany and France which have some of the strictest restrictions, mandatory masks, vaccine passports and no jab no entry is food for thought as to whether restrictions do indeed work?

Urmstongran Thu 20-Jan-22 09:24:44

Lucca

Urmstongran

On the use of face coverings, Boris said: “In the country at large, we will continue to suggest the use of face coverings in enclosed or crowded spaces, particularly when you come into contact with people you don’t normally meet, but we will trust the judgment of the British people and no longer criminalise anyone who chooses not to wear one.”

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I shall continue to use my common sense especially till springtime. Use of masks - not so much, but by keeping a safe distance, is more important for me.

How can you keep a safe distance in shop queues? Just as one example.

And why not face masks ?

I didn’t say I’d never worn masks Lucca just that I’m judicial in their use. Certainly not in the fresh air, nor when in our car (I’ve seen single occupiers driving their car wearing a mask - what on EARTH is that all about? Always ‘oldies’. Beggars belief.)

As for shopping, we live above Sainsbury’s where masks are still routine, well until next Wednesday & we will be home Thursday! But we don’t need to shop at busy times = less people about = less chance of transmission.

As I say, common sense. Some people are panicky, unsettled and immunosuppressive. They can (and will) continue to wear their masks. I understand that. Me? Not so much now.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 20-Jan-22 09:17:03

July. Schools closed. People spending time outside not huddled inside with the windows closed. Think about it.

LilacChaser Thu 20-Jan-22 09:13:26

It was a work's course, so no money involved for me. And, yes, statistics have shown exactly what I wrote. The facemask 'experiment' on so-called Freedom Day last July is one I particulary hold in mind. Everyone was up in arms about facemasks going and what happened? Covid cases in England dropped. Covid cases in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland where facemasks were still mandatory increased. Nuff said. If you can't see that, then perhaps you need to go on a course.

lemsip Thu 20-Jan-22 09:11:14

LilacChaser

That's made my day! I'm delighted and relieved.

At last, some sense from the government. Roll on 26th Jan.

sense from the Government? that'll be the day!

your very fortunate if that is all it takes to 'make your day!

LilacChaser Thu 20-Jan-22 09:03:36

Lucca ^You remind me of the woman who came into my DIL’s shop with no mask last year . When offered a disposable one she announced “oh I don’t do Covid””
“Well then I don’t do serving you, sorry” said my DIL.^

Oh, how smug. My reaction would have been to walk away and never darken her doorstep again, along with the rest of my family. With that attitude, no wonder so many small businesses are closing.

Maudi Thu 20-Jan-22 08:59:09

08:52growstuff

Says you who thinks you know it all?

growstuff Thu 20-Jan-22 08:54:45

LilacChaser

Varian

Yes, I understand probability and once did a short course in it along with several PhD students.

I'm not relying on anecdotal evidence.

Statistics have shown, quite nicely, that when facemask restrictions are brought in, covid levels go up and vice versa. You only have to compare Wales, Scotland and England to see what I mean.

No, statistics have not shown that at all. I don't know what statistics course you did, but I'd ask for my money back if I were you.

growstuff Thu 20-Jan-22 08:52:35

Maudi

Just use a bit of common sense. I'm pleased the Covid restrictions are ending and I can choose if and when I want to wear a face mask. The main thing I will still do is disinfect my hands after touching doors, supermarket trollies, cash machines etc that's where I think most of the germs are.

If that's what you think, I'm afraid you're wrong.

growstuff Thu 20-Jan-22 08:52:00

rosie1959

Growstuff I am not making fuss about wearing a mask I rarely go where one is needed but you do have the right idea wearing a FFP2 mask as they are superior to the normal blue surgical masks which are often badly fitted
But I do accept that not everyone likes them or wants to wear them I avoid places because I find them claustrophobic

I don't like them, but I'm not daft and I'm not making a big fuss about a little inconvenience.

Maudi Thu 20-Jan-22 08:51:47

Just use a bit of common sense. I'm pleased the Covid restrictions are ending and I can choose if and when I want to wear a face mask. The main thing I will still do is disinfect my hands after touching doors, supermarket trollies, cash machines etc that's where I think most of the germs are.

growstuff Thu 20-Jan-22 08:50:45

GrannyGravy13

MerylStreep

45,000 deaf children in this country are very very happy ?

Absolutely MerylStreep along with those on the spectrum along with all the children with SEN.

What percentage of the population is that? If most other people wear them, those who can't will benefit from reduced risk.

growstuff Thu 20-Jan-22 08:49:37

PS. Just because some people don't wear them properly doesn't mean that an attempt shouldn't be made to encourage people to wear them.

growstuff Thu 20-Jan-22 08:48:55

I agree that some masks are better than others and should always fit well. Nevertheless, even cloth or the normal blue masks stop some droplets (not all by any means) which reduces the concentration of infectious particles and reduces overall risk.

(According the majority of those who know about these things, anyway.)

GrannyGravy13 Thu 20-Jan-22 08:45:23

A high quality mask worn and fitted correctly is helpful in stopping/limiting transmission of Covid and other airborne viruses.

Unfortunately a quick stroll round any town centre, shopping mall or supermarket highlights that there are many many folk who have poor fitting poor quality masks which are as efficient as a chocolate teapot.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 20-Jan-22 08:42:13

MerylStreep

45,000 deaf children in this country are very very happy ?

Absolutely MerylStreep along with those on the spectrum along with all the children with SEN.

Lucca Thu 20-Jan-22 08:40:00

Urmstongran

On the use of face coverings, Boris said: “In the country at large, we will continue to suggest the use of face coverings in enclosed or crowded spaces, particularly when you come into contact with people you don’t normally meet, but we will trust the judgment of the British people and no longer criminalise anyone who chooses not to wear one.”

*

I shall continue to use my common sense especially till springtime. Use of masks - not so much, but by keeping a safe distance, is more important for me.

How can you keep a safe distance in shop queues? Just as one example.

And why not face masks ?

MerylStreep Thu 20-Jan-22 08:36:57

45,000 deaf children in this country are very very happy ?

Urmstongran Thu 20-Jan-22 08:29:04

Josieann ??

rosie1959 Thu 20-Jan-22 08:28:17

Growstuff I am not making fuss about wearing a mask I rarely go where one is needed but you do have the right idea wearing a FFP2 mask as they are superior to the normal blue surgical masks which are often badly fitted
But I do accept that not everyone likes them or wants to wear them I avoid places because I find them claustrophobic

Billybob4491 Thu 20-Jan-22 08:24:35

Despite my glasses fogging up I shall continue to wear mine.

Josieann Thu 20-Jan-22 08:24:13

particularly when you come into contact with people you don’t normally meet
Is that not the key? That if we are careful about those we mix with, who are likely to be those who are being careful too, then we can relax a bit. If, however we and those others start to extend our social matrix then of course it all becomes more risky again?

Sarnia Thu 20-Jan-22 08:16:33

I shall still wear my face mask. I am past caring what Boris tells me to do anymore.