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Boris and his lockdown birthday party

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Esspee Mon 24-Jan-22 23:07:54

Have a look at the pics. He is such a hypocrite.

MaizieD Wed 26-Jan-22 19:02:18

growstuff

railman

GG13 - because the alternative was unthinkable. ??

Most of the Johnson plans are actually recycled from Corbyn's manifesto and policies - so I'm guessing the current plans must be "unthinkable" as well.

Er? I don't think Corbyn had plans to clamp down on protest, undermine the judiciary, refuse to help people drowning or increase tax (via NICs) for the poorest, stop funding the BBC or sell off the NHS.

But he is an evil man, growstuff, don't forget that... ? Nothing at all like the nice cuddly sociopath we got instead...

MaizieD Wed 26-Jan-22 19:04:42

MaizieD

growstuff

railman

GG13 - because the alternative was unthinkable. ??

Most of the Johnson plans are actually recycled from Corbyn's manifesto and policies - so I'm guessing the current plans must be "unthinkable" as well.

Er? I don't think Corbyn had plans to clamp down on protest, undermine the judiciary, refuse to help people drowning or increase tax (via NICs) for the poorest, stop funding the BBC or sell off the NHS.

But he is an evil man, growstuff, don't forget that... ? Nothing at all like the nice cuddly sociopath we got instead...

Sorry, didn't read the quotes properly.

I think that railman was referring to the massive state spending on the pandemic and taking the railways into state control, growstuff. Not the vile Johnson stuff...

growstuff Wed 26-Jan-22 19:17:36

MaizieD

growstuff

railman

GG13 - because the alternative was unthinkable. ??

Most of the Johnson plans are actually recycled from Corbyn's manifesto and policies - so I'm guessing the current plans must be "unthinkable" as well.

Er? I don't think Corbyn had plans to clamp down on protest, undermine the judiciary, refuse to help people drowning or increase tax (via NICs) for the poorest, stop funding the BBC or sell off the NHS.

But he is an evil man, growstuff, don't forget that... ? Nothing at all like the nice cuddly sociopath we got instead...

I haven't forgotten anything. Corbyn was demonised, but I don't find it helpful when history gets rewritten and people claim that Johnson has copied Corbyn's policies. He most certainly hasn't. I prefer to stick to facts.

growstuff Wed 26-Jan-22 19:20:24

MaizieD

MaizieD

growstuff

railman

GG13 - because the alternative was unthinkable. ??

Most of the Johnson plans are actually recycled from Corbyn's manifesto and policies - so I'm guessing the current plans must be "unthinkable" as well.

Er? I don't think Corbyn had plans to clamp down on protest, undermine the judiciary, refuse to help people drowning or increase tax (via NICs) for the poorest, stop funding the BBC or sell off the NHS.

But he is an evil man, growstuff, don't forget that... ? Nothing at all like the nice cuddly sociopath we got instead...

Sorry, didn't read the quotes properly.

I think that railman was referring to the massive state spending on the pandemic and taking the railways into state control, growstuff. Not the vile Johnson stuff...

Johnson had very little choice but to spend. It's a shame that so much of it went to cronies - maybe the possibilities for opportunism were too much. He hasn't spent as part of a plan (eg. levelling up) and is, in any case, already returning to austerity policies.

kevincharley Wed 26-Jan-22 19:51:08

MayBee70

Anyone see Peter Bone on Sky News again saying that people in his constituency haven’t complained to him at all about the parties and virtually accusing Peter Kyle of lying when he said that many people are talking about it.

I shall rectify that immediately!

Iam64 Wed 26-Jan-22 20:13:47

Another loathsome individual - Peter bone and another fibber .

MayBee70 Wed 26-Jan-22 21:06:07

kevincharley

MayBee70

Anyone see Peter Bone on Sky News again saying that people in his constituency haven’t complained to him at all about the parties and virtually accusing Peter Kyle of lying when he said that many people are talking about it.

I shall rectify that immediately!

Thank you!

Dinahmo Wed 26-Jan-22 22:31:47

Fashionista1

Following on.....Keir Starmer was pictured swigging beer but you don't hear that being mentioned. Also a labour MP was paid £££ by a Chinese spy but you don't hear about that either.

Before you make comments like this I suggest that you vary your reading matter and maybe read in a bit more depth.
Both these actions have been explained several times over the last few weeks.

Dinahmo Wed 26-Jan-22 22:35:33

halfpint1

I am wondering if the pm is all that is said about him how can he be trusted to handle the potential
Ukraine situation. A wise cool head is needed surely

Your post reminded me of what he said about Nazanin Zaghari-Radcliffe. If he can talk nonsense about one person think what will come out of his mouth in conferences with NATO

Dinahmo Wed 26-Jan-22 22:39:27

ajswan

Okay how many people can say hand on heart that they didn’t break lockdown rules. What about all the thousands on protest marches, are they all going to traced and arrested, I think not. For goodness sake let’s concentrate on all the good he did. How many of you would be dead or in intensive care if he hadn’t launched a mass vaccination program. How many businesses would have gone under with huge job losses without the furlough scheme and the help businesses received.

I can truly say that - in France admittedly but possibly the rules were a bit more stringent. During the first lockdown we had to carry a certificate specifying where we going and the date and time. These were to be shown to gendarmes, should they have stopped us. All my friends in the UK also obeyed the lockdown rules - from what they told me. I believed them because, like me, we're all over 70 and didn't want to get covid.

Dinahmo Wed 26-Jan-22 22:43:08

catta5

Does anyone really care what he did over a year ago .Surely there are more important things people should be worrying about. I live in a city and every day there were reports of people flouting the guidelines so what and a Cabinet government meeting does not that warrant more than 2 people getting together

Don't you think that the rules are being flouted because of Johnson's flagrant behaviour?

glammagran Wed 26-Jan-22 23:38:41

I’ve been dying to ask you Mummer - were you Gabrielle56 in a previous life? Your style of writing is so similar?

Chestnut Wed 26-Jan-22 23:54:07

Quote:
Needless to say, if there were evidence of serious criminality in No 10 the police should carry out whatever inquiries they deemed necessary.

There is, however, no such evidence. There are allegations, some of which appear cast-iron, that illegal parties took place. But shameful though these parties undoubtedly were, they constitute in legal terms an offence roughly on a par with a parking ticket.

I won’t be surprised if this needless delving into parties costs millions. It is bound to if it drags on many months and involves many officers. Is this a sensible way to spend public money when Sue Gray, who seems perfectly competent, has already conducted her own inquiry?

If your house is burgled in London, or indeed anywhere else, it is unlikely that you will get much assistance from our supposedly hard-pressed police. They can nevertheless find time to interview dozens of people in Downing Street, whose ‘crime’ is to have attended a party that they shouldn’t have.

In fact, in 2017 the Met issued officers with guidelines informing them that they no longer need to investigate lesser incidents of grievous bodily harm or car crime unless a victim identifies a suspect. Meanwhile, a victim of a non-violent ‘hate crime’ is likely to have concerned officers on the phone.

This is what I mean by a lack of proportionality. Money and officers can always be found to mount high-profile investigations such as the one in Downing Street, while the real crimes which concern us in our everyday lives are often ignored.

growstuff Thu 27-Jan-22 00:28:03

The unit investigating the parties is a separate one from that which investigates other incidents. According to a statement by the Met, nobody has been diverted from normal duties.

PS. That's not to say that more police aren't needed.

growstuff Thu 27-Jan-22 00:34:07

If this were an investigation into whether Jo or Joan Bloggs had been having illegal meetings, I would agree that it's an excessive use of police time. However, this is about more than that. Many of the public are outraged that the PM of the UK, the person who is ultimately responsible for making the rules, flouted them himself and then lied in an attempted cover up. It's about the government's integrity. I think most of us know that, although some don't seem to care. If it all gets swept under the carpet, I think it reflects badly on the overall integrity of the country and what we are prepared to accept from our government.

Kali2 Thu 27-Jan-22 09:08:45

Exactly- the 'parties' are no longer the point in so many ways- it is the deception, the lies- and the fact he can't be trusted, and he is supported by others at the top who can't be trusted either.

It truly grieves me to see the UK a laughing stock all around the world, because of him. Just as the USA was because of Trump. It hurts, deeply. And it will take a VERY long time to recover from this.

Iam64 Thu 27-Jan-22 09:13:55

growstuff

If this were an investigation into whether Jo or Joan Bloggs had been having illegal meetings, I would agree that it's an excessive use of police time. However, this is about more than that. Many of the public are outraged that the PM of the UK, the person who is ultimately responsible for making the rules, flouted them himself and then lied in an attempted cover up. It's about the government's integrity. I think most of us know that, although some don't seem to care. If it all gets swept under the carpet, I think it reflects badly on the overall integrity of the country and what we are prepared to accept from our government.

This
How can Johnson be taken seriously on the world stage - never mind in the Uk. He lies, denies, obfuscates in response to any question. This was known when he was elected leader, them PM. It’s familiar to anyone who has worked with or studied the charming lying abusive men that partners stay with - somehow believing he;ll change just for them. Only this time it’s our country being played

Kali2 Thu 27-Jan-22 09:36:32

On a lighter note- do you remember some of us saying that you 'can't have your cake and eat it' ?

In the House, one MP just asked 'is the Prime Minister getting rid of all the Covid rules because he doesn't understand them?'

janeainsworth Thu 27-Jan-22 09:59:48

It truly grieves me to see the UK a laughing stock all around the world, because of him.
I don’t think we need you to rub salt into our wounds Kali.
Personally I don’t care what you or the rest of the world thinks of our country.
What I care about is the fact that our young people are growing up in a country where sleaze, corruption and dishonesty in public life are now seen as the norm.
I don’t have much faith that we can recover from this either.

Alegrias1 Thu 27-Jan-22 10:04:24

Personally I don’t care what you or the rest of the world thinks of our country.

I do. I care. Because if everybody else thinks we're untrustworthy, that we renege on our deals and that we're no better than a banana republic, we don't get trade deals worth anything, we are excluded from international discussions and the young people about whom you are so concerned are facing a future that is very different to the lives we've had.

It would be wrong to think we can just behave as we like and it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks of us. (I know you're not saying we can behave as we like)

Naninka Thu 27-Jan-22 10:05:35

Boris's birthday is the same day that my daughter and her fiance were supposed to get married. Only they didn't.

Happily, they are married now but Boris had more people to his birthday party on the postponed date than she had on her actual wedding day (she could only have 15).

He's a hypocrite, a liar, and his handwriting sucks!

FannyCornforth Thu 27-Jan-22 10:12:54

Peter Brooks today

Callistemon21 Thu 27-Jan-22 10:15:22

It truly grieves me to see the UK a laughing stock all around the world, because of him.

From what I hear, there is so much worry and so much dissatisfaction with politicians in general around the world that they barely give Boris or the British a thought.

janeainsworth Thu 27-Jan-22 10:16:16

Alegrias Because if everybody else thinks we're untrustworthy, that we renege on our deals and that we're no better than a banana republic, we don't get trade deals worth anything, we are excluded from international discussions
Yes you’re right and I get that.
What I meant was that high standards in public life are of fundamental importance, and everything is secondary to that.
It’s no good the apple being shiny on the outside, but rotten at the core.

Callistemon21 Thu 27-Jan-22 10:18:39

janeainsworth

^It truly grieves me to see the UK a laughing stock all around the world, because of him^.
I don’t think we need you to rub salt into our wounds Kali.
Personally I don’t care what you or the rest of the world thinks of our country.
What I care about is the fact that our young people are growing up in a country where sleaze, corruption and dishonesty in public life are now seen as the norm.
I don’t have much faith that we can recover from this either.

I hope that he will do the decent thing and go and that he can be replaced with someone of integrity but with more strength and forcefulness than, for example, Theresa May. A woman of integrity in a sewer of sleaze needs to be very strong indeed.