Why no criticism of Carrie?

Why would his wife have any better moral compass? He committed adultery with her. They're as bad as each other.

And as Ladyleftfieldlover points out, any woman who takes advantage of a wifely absence due to oncology treatment, is stooping pretty low.

And yes, the horrific expense of the Number 10 flat. I doubt BJ was that interested in interior design.

Would she have looked at him twice if he weren't in the upper echelons of power? Of course not.

I think she is irrelevant too

M0nica

What a sexist thread. I hope none of those posting these sexist remarks are not going to be getting outraged by any other examples of gross sexism that come up for discussion on GN.

In fact, I think I will report this thread.

No it isn't sexist.
If Johnson was in a same-sex relationship I'd be thinking the same.
His partner/spouse should not have been arranging parties and he should not have gone.

Good post Doodledog Tue 25-Jan-22 13:06:58

She’s younger than my youngest child and married to someone in their 50s. She is his third wife and won’t be the last. Once he resigns - and he will - he may well get a peerage. Carrie will then be Lady Johnson. She has two children, a boy and a girl. Her work will be complete. I wouldn’t be surprised if BJ hasn’t got someone new lined up already. I wonder how Carrie felt knowing that wife no, 2 was having cancer treatment while they were carrying on their affair? Just a thought.

BigBertha1

A writer in one of the weekend broadsheets said ' why doesn't the Prime Minister leave and take her husband with her'.

Lovely.

Well said. I agree

Mrs Johnson isn’t responsible for lockdown breaches. I shouldn’t have referred to her as Carrie Antoinette because that could suggest I blame her, rather than the PM for expensive refurbishments, garden parties, birthday parties and more.
I haven’t warmed to her, or admired her. Everything I read suggests a self admiring individual but - he’s the prime minister,
In any organisation, the culture is set by the `CEO. How can anyone be surprised at the drinking shambles that number 10 has demonstrably been

I can’t see this as sexist they are both disliked equally that’s fair

I agree, Kali, if it hadn't been Carrie it would have been someone else anyway.

Carrie is totally irrelevant.

No 10 not 19 I just moved them ???

They deserve each other in my opinion
Two of a kind
She should not have been living in No 19 before they married

Before you report the thread M0nica perhaps we could shift the emphasis as to how Carrie will come out of all this. As I see it, it is a win win situation for her because Boris will never be flattened or be put quietly in a corner. She will carry on with her expensive tastes and her parties, maybe even as Lady Carrie of Camberwick Green or somewhere, so the man she chose probably suits her down to the ground and the children make it all complete.
Plus of course Dilyn the dog.

What a sexist thread. I hope none of those posting these sexist remarks are not going to be getting outraged by any other examples of gross sexism that come up for discussion on GN.

In fact, I think I will report this thread.

Callistemon21

Her name was mentioned in this house last night as the possible party planner.

Is her husband so in thrall to her that he cannot see what he did was wrong?

My thoughts also

We too were discussing the place of Ms Johnson in this latest episode of law breaking, and I read that during one of the garden parties she had several friends attending, complete disregard for the rules.

Elizabeth27

Why no criticism of those that attended, I have not seen a list of those involved in all the gatherings.

I think the policy is not to name junior ministers and civil servants, as it is assumed that they will often be 'acting under orders', or that they find it more difficult than senior ones to say no.

The only names so far are the Johnsons and the interior designer who Johnson couldn't remember if he's paid or not. his memory seems very dodgy for someone with such an important role.

Of course spouses and partners influence people. It would be strange if they didn't. But I am certain that if I were PM my husband would know better than to organise a party and put me in a position where I would break my own rules, and am equally certain that if he were PM the same would apply.

In the end, it was up to Johnson to say no, and to break up all of the parties. He is in office, and his wife is not.

Good point Iam and yours too Elizabeth shouldn't the names of those who've been partying away at No. 10 also be made public?

Johnson wouldn’t have had a fallout with Cummings if it wasn’t for her - he didn’t like his sphere of influence being compromised and vice versa.

Curious that Carrie Antoinette can be seen as ruling number 10. Like any woman has ever ruled Johnson.
He’s the PM, he sets the culture. The culture is one of not seeing rules or guidance as applying to number 10.

His wife wouldn’t have (allegedly) organised a surprise birthday party during lockdown if she hadn’t known he’d be happy with that

A writer in one of the weekend broadsheets said ' why doesn't the Prime Minister leave and take her husband with her'.

Lovely.

Why no criticism of those that attended, I have not seen a list of those involved in all the gatherings.

I’m boggled that anyone would think it a good idea to throw a large birthday party for someone who was not long out of ICU with Covid and when they had a newborn in the house.

Most new mums don’t even like anyone with a common-or-garden cold coming near their tiny baby.

I’m sure she wears the trousers.

I’ve always thought she wears the trousers.