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Why no criticism of Carrie?

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gran5up Tue 25-Jan-22 10:57:09

Carrie Johnson, nee Symonds, appears to be involved in almost if not all these "partygate" shenanigans and is the basis for the ridiculous expenditure in 10 Downing Street flat,now is revealed as organiser of BJ's birthday party. Why no censure or criticism of her?. She is a former press adviser to the Tory parity, so knows the situation.

Callistemon21 Tue 25-Jan-22 11:00:29

Her name was mentioned in this house last night as the possible party planner.

Is her husband so in thrall to her that he cannot see what he did was wrong?

Grannynannywanny Tue 25-Jan-22 11:01:01

Just reading the Met Police are going to investigate the no 10 lockdown parties as a result of information passed to them by the inquiry team.

Jaxjacky Tue 25-Jan-22 11:10:53

Because she’s not the PM.

Callistemon21 Tue 25-Jan-22 11:12:04

Jaxjacky

Because she’s not the PM.

No, but the power behind the throne.

MayBee70 Tue 25-Jan-22 11:17:23

Along with her husband, she, too, has been sacked for wrongdoing in her job in the fact. They make a great couple to be running the country, don’t they.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 25-Jan-22 11:21:47

I’ve always thought she wears the trousers.

Rosalyn69 Tue 25-Jan-22 11:38:47

I’m sure she wears the trousers.

SueDonim Tue 25-Jan-22 11:46:54

I’m boggled that anyone would think it a good idea to throw a large birthday party for someone who was not long out of ICU with Covid and when they had a newborn in the house.

Most new mums don’t even like anyone with a common-or-garden cold coming near their tiny baby. confused

Elizabeth27 Tue 25-Jan-22 11:56:03

Why no criticism of those that attended, I have not seen a list of those involved in all the gatherings.

BigBertha1 Tue 25-Jan-22 11:58:55

A writer in one of the weekend broadsheets said ' why doesn't the Prime Minister leave and take her husband with her'.

Lovely.

Iam64 Tue 25-Jan-22 12:52:31

Curious that Carrie Antoinette can be seen as ruling number 10. Like any woman has ever ruled Johnson.
He’s the PM, he sets the culture. The culture is one of not seeing rules or guidance as applying to number 10.

His wife wouldn’t have (allegedly) organised a surprise birthday party during lockdown if she hadn’t known he’d be happy with that

vegansrock Tue 25-Jan-22 13:02:12

Johnson wouldn’t have had a fallout with Cummings if it wasn’t for her - he didn’t like his sphere of influence being compromised and vice versa.

Smileless2012 Tue 25-Jan-22 13:05:33

Good point Iam and yours too Elizabeth shouldn't the names of those who've been partying away at No. 10 also be made public?

Doodledog Tue 25-Jan-22 13:06:58

Of course spouses and partners influence people. It would be strange if they didn't. But I am certain that if I were PM my husband would know better than to organise a party and put me in a position where I would break my own rules, and am equally certain that if he were PM the same would apply.

In the end, it was up to Johnson to say no, and to break up all of the parties. He is in office, and his wife is not.

Doodledog Tue 25-Jan-22 13:10:01

Elizabeth27

Why no criticism of those that attended, I have not seen a list of those involved in all the gatherings.

I think the policy is not to name junior ministers and civil servants, as it is assumed that they will often be 'acting under orders', or that they find it more difficult than senior ones to say no.

The only names so far are the Johnsons and the interior designer who Johnson couldn't remember if he's paid or not. his memory seems very dodgy for someone with such an important role.

GillT57 Tue 25-Jan-22 13:57:17

We too were discussing the place of Ms Johnson in this latest episode of law breaking, and I read that during one of the garden parties she had several friends attending, complete disregard for the rules.

Namsnanny Tue 25-Jan-22 14:05:50

Callistemon21

Her name was mentioned in this house last night as the possible party planner.

Is her husband so in thrall to her that he cannot see what he did was wrong?

My thoughts also

M0nica Tue 25-Jan-22 14:29:33

What a sexist thread. I hope none of those posting these sexist remarks are not going to be getting outraged by any other examples of gross sexism that come up for discussion on GN.

In fact, I think I will report this thread.

Josieann Tue 25-Jan-22 14:46:30

Before you report the thread M0nica perhaps we could shift the emphasis as to how Carrie will come out of all this. As I see it, it is a win win situation for her because Boris will never be flattened or be put quietly in a corner. She will carry on with her expensive tastes and her parties, maybe even as Lady Carrie of Camberwick Green or somewhere, so the man she chose probably suits her down to the ground and the children make it all complete.
Plus of course Dilyn the dog.

BlueBelle Tue 25-Jan-22 15:13:52

They deserve each other in my opinion
Two of a kind
She should not have been living in No 19 before they married

BlueBelle Tue 25-Jan-22 15:14:40

No 10 not 19 I just moved them ???

Kali2 Tue 25-Jan-22 15:27:20

Carrie is totally irrelevant.

Josieann Tue 25-Jan-22 15:29:55

I agree, Kali, if it hadn't been Carrie it would have been someone else anyway.

BlueBelle Tue 25-Jan-22 15:35:17

I can’t see this as sexist they are both disliked equally that’s fair