Furious with the Tories...

Alegrias1: If you misrepresent somebody's view, it is not surprising that they put you right. It is not defensive to correct a misrepresentation of the truth.

It makes it worse when the misrepresentation is accompanied by a negative stereotype.

There's something I've learned since coming on GN a few months ago.

If you deviate in any way from what a person has said, even an additional comma, someone will jump and and say "I didn't say that! You're putting words in my mouth Unfair, unfair!!""

Sometimes I write "I'm paraphrasing". Sometimes its so obvious I don't bother, but people still get very defensive.

Ach well.

I am very angry with Mr Johnson but getting cross with the opposition parties…why aren’t they using the golden opportunity to tell us what they stand for?

I wonder if it is 'cancel culture' to invent something I didn't say and then denounce it. It's certainly not unusual on GN.

I agree that 'it's not so bad, the roof hasn't fallen in' isn't a good defence of Brexit. I simply observe that among the lies and false predictions at the time of the Referendum, some were made by Remain. For example, the stock market was supposed to collapse and when I last looked, it hadn't.

The partizan side-swipe about the nasty Tories and, presumably, the pure and blameless opposition is also wide of the mark. I have never counted myself as a fan of Boris Johnson and when I have voted for him or his party, it has been because the alternative was judged much worse. If that is taken as a reflection of disillusion with politicians and party politics, you would be right.

I have tried to debate Brexit over many years on GN but, sadly, it invariably ends up with me being insulted and the issues dodged. To judge Brexit after two years of pandemic is just too unreasonable to contemplate.

Beckett

Ah - there it is - the daily anti-Tory thread!

Yes, unfortunately they're not rare.

Wonder why that is?

Ah - there it is - the daily anti-Tory thread!

"Its not so bad, the roof hasn't fallen in" isn't a good defence of Brexit. It's up there with "He hasn't robbed a bank".

Must be a Tory thing.

What I would observe is that, despite the pandemic, the some of the disasters suggested by Remain have yet to occur.
True, and heaven help us when they do.

If you care to read almost any of the political threads on GN, you will see that you are not alone in working up a frenzy over the government. As you probably know, there is a band of folks exhibiting similar fury.

I am not sure you can say that the NHS has been underfunded during the pandemic. You could recognise that the pandemic has dominated everything since the Conservatives won its landslide victory and marginalised the rest, as well as creating an enormous funding issue. I suspect you did not believe much of what was said at the Referendum; and you would not be alone in that belief. The test of Brexit is, though, still to come post-pandemic. What I would observe is that, despite the pandemic, the some of the disasters suggested by Remain have yet to occur.

No not really have enough issues in family life to waste energy getting furious about something that in this moment I have no control over

Yes, spabbygirl, I too am furious with the Tories, although sadly, not as surprised as I should be by the behaviour of those who are responsible for all that you list.

It's all very well saying that there are some decent Tories in the woodwork, Germanshepherdsmum, but why are they still lurking and why haven't more of them spoken out before it's got to this stage and we have become an international laughing stock?

Don’t tar everyone with the same brush. There are decent Tory politicians and we will I hope see them coming out of the woodwork when Johnson goes.