Keir Starmer has to be rescued by police after being surrounded by an angry crowd who, misled by Johnson’s Commons statement, claimed he had helped a paedophile escape justice. It just shows how irresponsible, almost Trumpian, Johnson’s comment was.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/feb/07/police-rescue-keir-starmer-after-protesters-surround-him-near-parliament
Iam64
I’m beginning to make sense of what ‘click bait’ is, thanks to Maudi
Sometimes it's quite nice to indulge in a response to silly posts like those of Maudi. Perhaps one day she'll get the message!
Maudi
11:49Callistemon21
The protest was nothing to do with Starmer until they caught sight of him. I expect that any well known politician would have had the same treatment.
A protest hanging around waiting for a place to happen.
Why did Starmer and chip on his shoulder Lammy decide to walk past, why not keep out of the way. ?
Probably because they were on their way from one office to another and had to pass them. If he had crossed the road the protesters would have seen him and responded accordingly.
In case you don't know there is a separate building, called Portcullis House at Number 1 The Embankment which houses 213 MPs and their staff. It is across the road from the Palace of Westminster.
It’s also worth remembering that the early allegations were dismissed because some saw it as unfair to accuse a dead man who couldn’t defend himself
And those who won't look at the facts as they were at that date are basing their opinion purely on their horror at what was revealed after his death Before that the man was a popular entertainer who appeared to do a lot of good, and who managed to deceive a lot of people. He also apparently managed to silence a lot of his victims, so while he was alive, no-one would testify against him.
The CPS decided there was not enough evidence to either convict or acquit Saville. That is their job - to judge whether a trial is justified on the evidence available. Finding that evidence was the job of the police, who had been unable to find anyone who would stand up in court and say that they had been abused. You can't have a trial without evidence and witnesses, unless you are a banana republic without any laws.
Saville's nasty true colours only came to light after he was dead and his victims felt safe to tell the truth. What a pity their testimony was not available before his death!
Maudi we all have different opinions, all that’s asked of us by fellow posters that we present a coherent argument for our perspective. Those who spout invective with no evidence get jumped on, as is the case in any civilised discussion.
Exactly Gill
Actually Maudi, why don't you just enjoy your holiday? (I assume that is why you are 3 hours ahead).
Back to Dominic Grieve; a man of principle, a decent politician and a sharp reminder of how low the current administration have dragged the Tory party. At the risk of repeating myself, my problem with Johnson is not because he is a Tory, or because he is a Brexiteer, it is because he is a liar, a cheat, an immoral individual. Unlike some on here, I can differentiate between politics, party, and morals.
No surprise there then
12:52Elegran
That isn't a chip, it is a whole log, and it is obstructing her ears so that she can't hear the truth that so many people have been trying to get through to her. There are none so deaf as those who won't hear.
How nasty true colours come to mind.
Obviously on GN you are not allowed an opinion if it disagrees with the stalwart remainer posters. Back to Facebook where my view is the popular view.
Maudi
A blind man could see that Dominic Grieve like the other Dominic has an axe to grind. Obviously the remainers love him.
No. We respect MP’s that uphold the law and speak and behave with common decency. Most of us are not tribal in that way: we don’t blindly follow MP’s that we feel are doing wrong purely because we vote for their party.
Caleo
Either Mr Johnson knows he is a rabble rouser, or he does not even understand the concept of rousing a rabble. In each case he is unfit to be a politician.
Caleo Johnson knew perfectly well what he was doing and how it would encourage some people to believe the slur that Starmer was somehow sympathetic to that monster Saville and in cahoots with him to avoid justice.
It is standard Trumpish dirty-tricks policy to discredit his opponents in any way possible, instead of building up his own position by honourable and statesmanlike behaviour.
That isn't a chip, it is a whole log, and it is obstructing her ears so that she can't hear the truth that so many people have been trying to get through to her. There are none so deaf as those who won't hear.
Chip on his shoulder ? About what Maudi ?
"Why did Starmer and chip on his shoulder Lammy decide to walk past, why not keep out of the way. " Perhaps because they were going somewhere about their own lawful business and didn't imagine they would be in danger from a "peaceful demonstration" in thiscivilised, democratic and law-abiding country? Doubtless Jo Cox and Sir David Amess thought the same thing - just before they were murdered.
Either Mr Johnson knows he is a rabble rouser, or he does not even understand the concept of rousing a rabble. In each case he is unfit to be a politician.
A blind man could see that Dominic Grieve like the other Dominic has an axe to grind. Obviously the remainers love him.
I’m beginning to make sense of what ‘click bait’ is, thanks to Maudi
Oh, FFS, Maudi. 'Bitter Remainers'
You're not worth answering.
He's obviously got a big chip on his shoulder with regards to Boris and the Conservative party
No, he probably has integrity and thinks Johnson is betraying the integrity of the Conservative party too.
11:49Callistemon21
The protest was nothing to do with Starmer until they caught sight of him. I expect that any well known politician would have had the same treatment.
A protest hanging around waiting for a place to happen.
Why did Starmer and chip on his shoulder Lammy decide to walk past, why not keep out of the way. ?
Dominic Grieve is a Conservative MP who lost a confidence vote in his constituency after he attempted to block Brexit. He's obviously got a big chip on his shoulder with regards to Boris and the Conservative party,but it seems he's not alone a lot of remainers are very bitter.
The protest was nothing to do with Starmer until they caught sight of him. I expect that any well known politician would have had the same treatment.
A protest hanging around waiting for a place to happen.
Thanks Whitewave and big thanks to Dominic Grieve
“Dominic Grieve: I was Attorney General when Keir Starmer was director of public prosecutions.. & everyone knew Jimmy Savile was not his responsibility.. & when the PM tells a whopping lie that's put out by fascist right wing websites, that's a disgraceful thing to do”
Dickens
Iam64
Mamie
"It seems this protest was about Starmer's failings as an opposition leader".
On which subject Piers Corbyn is undoubtedly the most disinterested of commentators.
??????
... LOL!
Brother Jeremy once had him thrown out of a meeting on climate change - I think he was among the usual mob of hecklers... not sure Piers is Jeremy's best advocate ?!
I'd love to hear some of the conversations between the two brothers - I know Jeremy isn't everyone's cup of tea, but he appears conventionally normal compared to his brother who seems to haunt these kinds of 'protests' on a regular basis! He comes across as being slightly unhinged...
I have a mental image of Piers and Jeremy competing against the Millibands on a revived 'Ask the Family'
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