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Virginia Giuffre and the missing picture

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tickingbird Tue 15-Feb-22 12:47:13

Apparently Prince Andrew’s accuser has lost the photograph of her and PA together. He has always maintained it’s fake and his legal team want it be examined.

Does anyone else find it odd that a photograph that has been kept for years has now suddenly been lost?

Boz Tue 15-Feb-22 14:41:04

They could both be photo shopped. In any case, this will muddy the waters. What other evidence does she have? It could come down to who you believe in a Court case.
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luluaugust Tue 15-Feb-22 14:36:32

How convenient.

Elegran Tue 15-Feb-22 14:35:14

Unless, of course, they have already had it examined and have decided not to use it.

tickingbird Tue 15-Feb-22 14:35:04

Who brought out the yacht one? Do we know

AFAIK I think it was Lady Victoria Harvey. I’m sure she lives in the US and has always had a bit of a reputation. That one does look fake.

Peasblossom Tue 15-Feb-22 14:34:46

Well her lawyers had access to it previously. Presumably they can get it again.

Elegran Tue 15-Feb-22 14:33:57

Smileless2012

But cannot be used in evidence if it's been 'lost' Elegran or if PA's legal team haven't had the opportunity to verify its authenticity.

I would think that would be the case Peasblossom as even in a civil case evidence is given under oath.

Not in formal evidence, but I can't imagine that anyone hasn't seen it already, so it will be in the back of their minds - and, as someone said, PA's lawyers won't have a chance to have it examined and then use the findings in their evidence.

JaneJudge Tue 15-Feb-22 14:31:15

she hasn't said she has lost it, she said it isn't in her possession confused was it ever hers in the first place?

25Avalon Tue 15-Feb-22 14:30:38

Just because we don’t like PA and think he’s a bit of a slime ball doesn’t make him guilty. I’ve never been happy about the photo - it just didn’t seem quite right. Why not ask Maxwell? She’s in it too.

Peasblossom Tue 15-Feb-22 14:27:38

I have a devious and cynical mind?

Smileless2012 Tue 15-Feb-22 14:26:50

Good question Peasblossom.

Peasblossom Tue 15-Feb-22 14:25:14

Who brought out the yacht one? Do we know?

Peasblossom Tue 15-Feb-22 14:22:35

If I was going to fake a photo I’d do better than that yacht one ?

But I still wonder why they didn’t want the other one looked at by experts.

Anniebach Tue 15-Feb-22 14:18:42

Definitely Urmstongran it is surely the most important piece of evidence

Urmstongran Tue 15-Feb-22 14:14:33

And under lock and key you’d assume Anniebach!

Anniebach Tue 15-Feb-22 14:13:23

She keeps a photograph for 21 years and then loses it , well her lawyer loses it because surely it was with him.

crazyH Tue 15-Feb-22 14:09:51

Thanks Trisher - just look at her left hand ….something’s not right ..

trisher Tue 15-Feb-22 14:09:41

You're welcome Gsm. I think there is so much that shows it's been doctored That whatever it is covering the arm that was round Andrew. The very bad shading behind her other arm (they couldn't even match the colour). The very odd hand on that arm and the black line around it- all signs of photo-shopping.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 15-Feb-22 14:04:02

Thanks Trisher, very kind of you. How weird. That one does look more like a fake doesn’t it?

trisher Tue 15-Feb-22 13:57:04

Here it is. Not even a good fake!

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 15-Feb-22 13:48:29

I haven’t seen the yacht photo. Can anyone post a link to it?

Smileless2012 Tue 15-Feb-22 13:31:31

But cannot be used in evidence if it's been 'lost' Elegran or if PA's legal team haven't had the opportunity to verify its authenticity.

I would think that would be the case Peasblossom as even in a civil case evidence is given under oath.

Anniebach Tue 15-Feb-22 13:29:42

The highlights in her hair are identical in both photographs

trisher Tue 15-Feb-22 13:29:20

Well I have loked at them both and if I had to pick a fake I'd say it is the yacht picture. Very plain background- much easier than the complicated arrangement of arms on the party one, including G. Maxwell's arms. One arm has an obvious black line around it and the hand in an odd position, the other arm has disappeared under something (coat?). Whereas on the party one you can plainly see her hand behind Andrew.

mayisay Tue 15-Feb-22 13:25:54

I have to say that I've also been very dubious about that photo. Her face, and in particular her eyes, don't appear to me as she is being forced to do anything she didn't want to do.

Sparklefizz Tue 15-Feb-22 13:14:05

... and forgot to say that she was standing in the same position too.