The Queen has COVID

GrannyGravy13

That’s where we differ, I do not have a problem with folks having money, I do not have a problem with handing money
/assets down to children.

Lots of folks need something to aim for, it’s not my place to deny them that opportunity.

Oh, GG13

Can you not see a difference between people who have a comfortable amount of money (that I didn't specify) and people who just suck £million or £billions out of the economy and put it to no good use whatsoever? What is the point of having it? It's dead, it's useless to everybody, including themselves.

Just whose money is it to start with, when the government creates more to keep the economy going?

And I very deliberately avoided the question of inheritance.

I'm absolutely unclear as to what your last sentence was trying to say. Some folks just aim for heat and food. There are plenty of people around who are happy to deny them this because they think they don't deserve to be treated like sentient human beings because they are poor...

That’s where we differ, I do not have a problem with folks having money, I do not have a problem with handing money
/assets down to children.

Lots of folks need something to aim for, it’s not my place to deny them that opportunity.

Anniebach

I hope the Queen makes a full recovery

Absolutely so do I Anniebach

I hope the Queen makes a full recovery

GrannyGravy13

nadateturbe so why do people work to pay bills too live and to save, to put something by for a rainy day.

Some save more than others, some have more than others, rather than punishing those who have more what about enabling those who have less to earn more and therefore save more?

People wo work to pay bills and put something by for a rainy day are nowhere near in the same league as people who have £millions and £billions which, apart from buying very expensive items, like multiple houses and fine art as an 'investment'', not to use, mind you, just to increase their wealth,; or speculate on the money markets to increase their wealth, not to do anything productive with it, just to increase it.

No-one grudges people enough to enjoy comfortable lives and to be safe from want in their old age. And, clearly it is pointless to try to put a figure on what that amount might be, because everyone's idea of 'enough' is different. Some people would just like to have enough to eat and heat (and now to pay for LFTs), because a few million of our citizens can't even afford both.

rather than punishing those who have more what about enabling those who have less to earn more and therefore save more?

Well, the problem with this, GG13, as I believe I pointed out on another thread recently, is that there is at any one time only a finite amount of 'money' in existence and 'the rich' tend to suck most of it into their bank accounts (in tax havens) by being the people who profit from everything bought by the less well off. Either by share dividends, rents or just having 'top jobs' in businesses.

I know that I say that no government can run out of money, and by the way that the supply of money in the economy has increased over the years it is obvious that governments do create more money, but as far as the money being productive, contributing to everyone's well being and comfortable lives is concerned it is rather like pouring it into a black hole if 'the rich' suck it out of the economy.

As this money is supposed to be for the benefit of everyone in a country, public money, why should it be concentrated in the hands of a few?

There is some figure floating around that suggests that 'the rich', a tiny percentage of the world's population (less than 1%, I can't remember the actual figure) have more wealth than the combined GPD of all the world's countries. Most of it doing absolutely nothing at all...not even being spent. Just hoarded.

We are here to serve each other and care for each other, not to "store up riches "

You do your thing and I'll do mine, nadateturbe!

nadateturbe so why do people work to pay bills too live and to save, to put something by for a rainy day.

Some save more than others, some have more than others, rather than punishing those who have more what about enabling those who have less to earn more and therefore save more?

Anniebach

This thread is about a woman who has Covid yet some choose to speak of her wealth not her health therefore money is of more importance to some than health

No it's not more important Anniebach. No one said it or thinks it. But as usual you refuse to answer. You couldn't possibly disagree. We are here to serve each other and care for each other, not to "store up riches".

“That’s nice, P,” you’re right about the wealth in the UK -or anywhere else for that matter, being unevenly distributed without having to even mention the RF but the need to mention it repeatedly on a post about HM having Covid doesn’t make you sound like a very nice person.

And the Queen’s own 2 properties are open to the public

Poppsbaggie

I would wish anyone well who caught Covid, even you.
Though it is sometimes very, very difficult with very unpleasant people.

Poppsbaggie

Ok folks. Have you finished doffing caps and curtsying to a woman who has lived in luxury on the back on the British taxpayer all her life? If the RF didn't cost much I wouldn't give a damm, but we live in a country number where wealth is so unevenly distributed it's obscene. Millions living in poverty whilst this unelected shambles, living as they do by virtue of an accident of birth go on their merry way. Do they really need numerous grand houses , palaces and castles to live in? Open these up to the tourists who would gladly contribute to the UK economy. And before any tells me the RF add to the economy by their mere existence, they don't. Even the visiting American and Japanese do not expect to have lunch with her maj. They would still come and spend much needed money regardless. Consider how many countries (virtually all) survive quite nicely without a monarchy. Rant over.

Do some research, many of the Royal residences are open to the public.

This thread is about a woman who has Covid yet some choose to speak of her wealth not her health therefore money is of more importance to some than health

Anniebach

Some believe money protects from all the ills in the world

Indeed. I've never understood how people can think that being a member of the Royal Family is a life of unalloyed cushiness.
Sure, one can have gold-plated corgis for breakfast but every aspect of one's life is pored over in the media like bread and circuses for (some of) the people. And contractable diseases are no respecter of wealth or age or occupation.

I don't know anyone who believes that Anniebach. We know it's not true so why keep amassing it?
I do wonder why some people want to store hundreds of millions of pounds. So much that will never be used that could help others. Would you not agree?

Some believe money protects from all the ills in the world

No-one was curtsying or doffing a cap, just expressing concern for an old lady well into her nineties who has had one hell of a time over the last few years from her son and grandson, has just lost her husband and now faces CoVid.

Ok folks. Have you finished doffing caps and curtsying to a woman who has lived in luxury on the back on the British taxpayer all her life? If the RF didn't cost much I wouldn't give a damm, but we live in a country number where wealth is so unevenly distributed it's obscene. Millions living in poverty whilst this unelected shambles, living as they do by virtue of an accident of birth go on their merry way. Do they really need numerous grand houses , palaces and castles to live in? Open these up to the tourists who would gladly contribute to the UK economy. And before any tells me the RF add to the economy by their mere existence, they don't. Even the visiting American and Japanese do not expect to have lunch with her maj. They would still come and spend much needed money regardless. Consider how many countries (virtually all) survive quite nicely without a monarchy. Rant over.

I find it funny the other way. When there is lots of praising of a particular member of the royal family, I think yeah but in a few years time you will likely be called lots of choice names.

Maizie. I don’t expect you to say anything. I find it tiresome and boring when threads on RF always evolve into monarchy bashing. What I do find amusing is the ones who use any excuse to do that are usually the ones who come out all guns blazing in defence of Harry and Meghan whenever there’s a thread about them. It’s funny because if they were still active members of the RF they’d be subject to the same treatment.

Okay, ReadyMeals , yes, I get what you mean

tickingbird

Why is this even being discussed on this thread? It’s about the Queen having Covid not whether she’s paying for PA’s settlement or whether the Queen Mother was an alcoholic!

I know, I got sidetracked by irrelevance!

FannyCornforth

I’m not sure if ‘mild symptoms of Covid’ do mean like the ‘worst cold ever’.

I think Draper has been hospitalised with Covid for longer than anyone else in the UK.
Is this right, does anyone know?

I said they CAN BE bad cold symptoms, while still being described as mild covid, hopefully you saw the nuance. What I was trying to get at is the description of the Queen's symptoms as being mild have a lot of wriggle room, and she could actually be feeling pretty rotten.

Conversations evolve.

tickingbird

FC.
“Threads evolve tickingbird
It’s like having a conversation”
Unfortunately they evolve into RF bashing by some, even a thread discussing our very elderly Monarch’s poor health.

We've all said* that we're sorry to hear she's not well, tickingbird. What else would you like us to say?

(*Actually, I haven't said that at all because it would just be repeating what lots of other people were saying; it makes for a boring thread...)