Lifting all Covid resrictions- how do you feel about it?

Is it really such a difficult thing to wear a mask in areas such as shops,buses etc to help someone else ?

westendgirl

Is it really such a difficult thing to wear a mask in areas such as shops,buses etc to help someone else ?

This keeps coming up in threads like this doesn’t it ? I wouldn’t have thought it was too much to ask, to keep vulnerable people safe when restrictions are lifted, but I can see the point of view of those who, after almost two years of mandatory mask wearing, are keen to get rid of them for good. From the point of view of someone CEV throughout the pandemic, I think it’s more to do with asking people to be mindful of those who are still vulnerable by keeping a reasonable distance, and yes, maybe consider wearing a mask just in crowded areas. The government has yet to issue any proper guidance to CEV people, who have spent the last two years getting regular letters and emails with dire warnings about shielding and other measures. The only advice has been to refer to GP or specialist. The promise of another jab in the spring seemed like an afterthought.

Daisymae, Covid-19 was originally classed as a HCID "High Consequence Infectious disease" but four days before the first lockdown Public Health England stated on the gov.uk that it found that it wasn't as serious as it had first thought and downgraded it same as influenza. At that time I remember thinking "thank Goodness, at least we won't need to lockdown now", silly me. Two years later - trashed economy, small businesses smashed, jobs lost, mental health and suicides gone through the roof, a population terrified out of their wits. Yes, many deaths too, out of approx. 160,000 only around 7,000 were people with covid and no other co-morbidities according to Office for National Statistics.

Having other Co-morbities wouldn’t mean you would otherwise die though effalump, so that’s a meaningless comparison,

effalump You clearly haven’t seen the information explaining that stats about only 7,000 (do you mean 17,000 which was publicised?) dying from Covid is more complicated, and is in fact incorrect.
Do you ever listen to “More or Less” R4 or read FullFact.org where this has been disputed and disproved?

westendgirl

Is it really such a difficult thing to wear a mask in areas such as shops,buses etc to help someone else ?

Depends what I am doing a quick nip in the supermarket I can tolerate a mask
Off to Brighton in a couple of weeks which will include some leisurely shopping then no mask they get on my nerves but I will test before I go out you can’t give someone something you don’t have

Bring on normality. It can't come soon enough. We cannot go on hiding and isolating for ever. What about the economy and people's mental health. Those who don't feel safe well let them self-isolate, and let the rest of us get back to normal.

songstress60

Bring on normality. It can't come soon enough. We cannot go on hiding and isolating for ever. What about the economy and people's mental health. Those who don't feel safe well let them self-isolate, and let the rest of us get back to normal.

I don't know about you, but I haven't been hiding or isolating. So how exactly does wearing a mask, staying at home when you're ill or not being supported financially to stay off work affect the economy or anybody's mental health?

On the contrary, many CEV people are likely to have their mental affected because, if they want to go out, they'll have to meet and possibly be infected by irresponsible people, who like to think they're "freedom fighters".

songstress60

Bring on normality. It can't come soon enough. We cannot go on hiding and isolating for ever. What about the economy and people's mental health. Those who don't feel safe well let them self-isolate, and let the rest of us get back to normal.

Exactly the attitude I’ve been talking about. It’s not about not feeling safe, it’s about not being safe.

What an incredibly selfish attitude! You might as well have just said "I'll do what I like and sod you!"

PS. That was in response to songstress.

rosie1959

westendgirl

Is it really such a difficult thing to wear a mask in areas such as shops,buses etc to help someone else ?

Depends what I am doing a quick nip in the supermarket I can tolerate a mask
Off to Brighton in a couple of weeks which will include some leisurely shopping then no mask they get on my nerves but I will test before I go out you can’t give someone something you don’t have

So you'd put other people in danger because something "gets on your nerves"? Wow! I can think of plenty of things which get on my nerves, but I thought we were all supposed to be adults.

Farzanah

effalump You clearly haven’t seen the information explaining that stats about only 7,000 (do you mean 17,000 which was publicised?) dying from Covid is more complicated, and is in fact incorrect.
Do you ever listen to “More or Less” R4 or read FullFact.org where this has been disputed and disproved?

"Incorrect" isn't the right word. It's a lie and the people who are claiming that figure are downright irresponsible.

Wearing a mask in shops and public transport does not harm the economy

Refusing to do that signals that you are someone who does not care about anyone else.

effalump

Daisymae, Covid-19 was originally classed as a HCID "High Consequence Infectious disease" but four days before the first lockdown Public Health England stated on the gov.uk that it found that it wasn't as serious as it had first thought and downgraded it same as influenza. At that time I remember thinking "thank Goodness, at least we won't need to lockdown now", silly me. Two years later - trashed economy, small businesses smashed, jobs lost, mental health and suicides gone through the roof, a population terrified out of their wits. Yes, many deaths too, out of approx. 160,000 only around 7,000 were people with covid and no other co-morbidities according to Office for National Statistics.

It's not true effalump. It's a conspiracy theory lie and you've fallen for it.

varian

Wearing a mask in shops and public transport does not harm the economy

Refusing to do that signals that you are someone who does not care about anyone else.

Maybe they wouldn't mind wearing a badge stating "I couldn't give a stuff".

I don’t mind wearing a mask. I’m still doing it at work, as we have been given the option, and in shops because I want to.
What are all the lanyard wearers that we have been protecting going to do, now we don’t have to wear masks?

effalump

Daisymae, Covid-19 was originally classed as a HCID "High Consequence Infectious disease" but four days before the first lockdown Public Health England stated on the gov.uk that it found that it wasn't as serious as it had first thought and downgraded it same as influenza. At that time I remember thinking "thank Goodness, at least we won't need to lockdown now", silly me. Two years later - trashed economy, small businesses smashed, jobs lost, mental health and suicides gone through the roof, a population terrified out of their wits. Yes, many deaths too, out of approx. 160,000 only around 7,000 were people with covid and no other co-morbidities according to Office for National Statistics.

This was circulating on the internet and is basically conspiracy theory - a salutary lesson in doing your research before you post.

Unfortunately, there are a fair number of posters who are taken in by the conspiracy theories.
The first thing we taught pupils was to use a variety of sources and state the source, when researching.

We have to fight a biological pandemic and an internet disinformation pandemic.

I'm not sure which is the bigger threat.

The issue of suicides has been fact-checked many times and is false.

Marydoll

Unfortunately, there are a fair number of posters who are taken in by the conspiracy theories.
The first thing we taught pupils was to use a variety of sources and state the source, when researching.

Unfortunately, the country is led by somebody who wouldn't know what the truth was, if he were hit in the face with it.

Growstuff how can I possibly put people in danger if I test before I go shopping you can't give someone something you don't have. I have found lateral flow tests to be very accurate if used just before an event.
I am adult and I am quite capable of making my own choices.

Not only is the COVID info in effalump's post proven untrue but 'trashed aconomy'? When part of the reason for current inflation is strong demand in the economy, employment is holding up and in January for the first time the Treasury had more money coming in than going out. www.theguardian.com/business/2021/dec/14/uk-unemployment-rate-falls-despite-end-of-job-furlough-scheme

effalump

Whether the figure was 7000 or 17000 it means all the rest who died had complicating factors. So does that mean we can just wash our hands of them and say they don’t matter? Those people had complications such as high blood pressure, diabetes, heart conditions, asthma, or cancer, or any one or more of other conditions, but they weren’t going to die immediately in most cases. They got Covid and Covid killed them. Many of them would still be alive if Covid had never happened.