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Urmstongran Wed 23-Feb-22 21:11:19

A LAB leak is now considered the most likely origin of the Covid pandemic “behind closed doors” of the Government, it has been claimed, after Boris Johnson signalled that security measures would be enhanced to prevent accidental escape.

On Monday, the Prime Minister told the House of Commons the UK Biosecurity Strategy would be refreshed to protect against “natural zoonosis and laboratory leaks” in a public acknowledgement of the threat from insecure research facilities.

There is mounting suspicion that Covid-19 leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology that had been experimenting on bat coronaviruses in the years before the virus first emerged in Wuhan city.

The Government has issued a call for evidence before drafting a new biosecurity strategy, which will deal with “accidental release and dual-use research of concern, where life science research is capable of being misapplied to do harm”.

Hamish de Bretton-Gordon, of Magdalene College, Cambridge, who has submitted evidence for the strategy, said: “The official view (within government) is that it is as likely as anything else to have caused the pandemic.”

“Behind closed doors most people think it’s a lab leak.” ?

volver Sat 26-Feb-22 08:21:09

Reported. Same person, same crap, two different threads.

Beware disinformation my friends.

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Marjgran Fri 25-Feb-22 20:05:00

I think this is still contentious. And the front page surely is Putin, a crazed autocrat who wants to rebuild USSR and has every weapon, his finger can annihilate all of us…

Urmstongran Fri 25-Feb-22 20:01:57

True Esmay.

Esmay Fri 25-Feb-22 19:58:37

Front page news has to contain the following words -
Celeb(s),fan(s) and baby bump .

Desire Fri 25-Feb-22 18:49:22

Dean Koontz's book "The Eyes of Darkness” - science fiction novel published in 1981 references a fictional “biological weapon” called “Wuhan-400” . Interesting read...

songstress60 Fri 25-Feb-22 18:33:08

I have said right from the start it originated in Wuhan and I often wonder if it was deliberate, but hey nobody dares confront China. They shut up that scientist, didn't they!

JacquiG Fri 25-Feb-22 17:07:30

But would it be China? It has been reported that Fauci paid China labs at Wuhan to research 'gain for function' on SARS viruses. Hotly disputed, of course.
www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02903-x

Namsnanny Fri 25-Feb-22 16:40:28

So did we (UK) sometime ago

Caro57 Fri 25-Feb-22 16:27:23

I think that has been the opinion for sometime but it’s also known that the US contributed to the funding of some of the lab work

Mummer Fri 25-Feb-22 14:23:42

#JAILING OF DOCTOR

Mummer Fri 25-Feb-22 14:23:12

harrigran

Right at the beginning of the pandemic I said to DH that I thought it bore all the hallmarks of a lab created virus. It had to be unique as there was no natural immunity.
Which country cornered the market on PPE and face masks, well no surprises there.

The fact of no natural immunity is not an indication of artificially modified virus. No immunity to rabies for the longest time and still a bit hit and miss but a naturally occurring virus. I was suspicious of the violent snatching and mailing of the doctor who raised the first alarm , not the actions of authorities concerned that another sars/mers outbreak was afoot? Suspicions proven justified.

geeljay Fri 25-Feb-22 14:18:01

I think the world jury is still out on this one. Seems the popular belief is it originated in Wuhan, but no evidence for or against. Was Mr Trump the only one to say it out loud. And was he right.?

volver Fri 25-Feb-22 14:17:41

I couldn't possibly say.

(The Telegraph and the right wing press)

Mummer Fri 25-Feb-22 14:16:26

volver

THERE IS NO NEW EVIDENCE THAT THIS IS A LAB LEAK.

YOU ARE BEING MISLED.

Sorry, I felt shouting was justified.

Misled by whom?

Mummer Fri 25-Feb-22 14:15:49

Quite! Your dead right.

volver Fri 25-Feb-22 14:15:43

THERE IS NO NEW EVIDENCE THAT THIS IS A LAB LEAK.

YOU ARE BEING MISLED.

Sorry, I felt shouting was justified.

Mummer Fri 25-Feb-22 14:14:20

Corona viruses? Like? What do you mean?

Mummer Fri 25-Feb-22 14:12:49

Never heard that one " it's a good day to release bad news"? I always knew that all this was never caused by one bloody bat!!!

arum Fri 25-Feb-22 13:41:03

A planned leak, yes!

CleoPanda Fri 25-Feb-22 13:09:44

JaneD666 Fri 25-Feb-22 12:36:03
“Everything I've read in the scientific literature says all the evidence suggests it was NOT a lab leak, deliberate or otherwise. The reason the lab is in Wuhan is because coronviruses are very common there so it's where they study them (the same as having a lab researching ebola where ebola is very common). It came from bats, probably via an intermediate species of mammal.”

My experience is exactly the same! I even read a scientific article a few days ago, “confirming” the virus was a “natural”

greenlady102 Fri 25-Feb-22 12:57:45

There still is no proof. "Behind closed doors" people are still saying that Elvis is alive and working in a chip shop. Not saying its not a good thing but how will beefing up UK biosecurity help with what other countries do?

GillT57 Fri 25-Feb-22 12:55:36

There are many theories and opinions on how or even why covid19 originated in Wuhan, where the laboratories are, but to my mind, the most feasible explanation is that the leak was due to the lab animals which had been used in testing, being sold in the wet markets rather than being destroyed as they should have been. I read this in an article published in the New York Times months ago, and have always thought it a very viable explanation.

Ro60 Fri 25-Feb-22 12:48:16

China was looking into viruses in a serious way.
As far back as 2012 when 3 men removing slab from derelict copper mine fell ill and died of pneumonia.

In May 2019 Wuhan Institute of Virology undertook renovation of booster equipment and air conditioning in September.

Wuhan Institute of Virology Virol pathogen database created 20/06/2019. The project looked at 100 new viruses and analysed 10 important viruses and identified major pathogens from wild animals.
China denied research on bats yet bat cages were seen on their promotion videos.
There's a lot China isn't straight with us.