You’d think this news would be front page‼️

growstuff

Well, this child would like to know who you think is controlling you.

I have no idea what you’re talking about. I haven’t spoken of anyone controlling me.

If you call people stupid which is what your post was about it generally is a disaster, i.e Brexit.

I'm not sure what you mean Galaxy.

Thanks for that volver. That 'easily led' thing has been so successful hasnt it, calling people stupid works brilliantly. It's never ever failed before.

I dont know that anyone is controlling anyone here but the information about the lab leak was censored it was banned on Facebook as far as I remember. The dangers of having any internet provider in charge of what information we should receive is really worrying.

On a day when we have to witness the impact of the completely made-up ramblings of Putin with respect to Ukraine and how they, Putin's people, are the "good guys", please take a moment to appreciate how vulnerable you are to fake news.

The "news" is that the conditions for biosecurity are going to be strengthened here in the UK and in the other 21 countries that are part of the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention. But those easily led readers who want to find scapegoats for the problems in this country and around the world immediately fall for the manipulative slant on the Telegraph article which is just repeating old rumours about a coronavirus leak.

Just for once, try to appreciate that your world view might just be orchestrated by the press and the people behind them, who have an ulterior motive.

tickingbird

^Who do you imagine is controlling what you think or say?^

Rather childish of you growstuff

When the pandemic began there was plenty on this forum about China and their lack of openness about how it started. Many were roundly condemned and slated for expressing negative views on them. Doubtless you were one of them.

Well, this child would like to know who you think is controlling you.

This story has been around for a long time and I have no reason to think it’s untrue. I don’t trust the Chinese. It would be very difficult, maybe impossible, for the government to impose sanctions as they are firmly entrenched in the UK, but as MOnica says we as individuals can impose our own sanctions by refusing to buy anything made in China. Their produce turns up in the most surprising places - pasta plates sold by The White Company (so not cheap) made in China; some frozen fish pie mix I looked at in Tesco packed in China (which stayed in the shop).

Tickingbird, rather rich of you to accuse growstuff of being childish.

China and Russia are colonising the world

Who do you imagine is controlling what you think or say?

Rather childish of you growstuff

When the pandemic began there was plenty on this forum about China and their lack of openness about how it started. Many were roundly condemned and slated for expressing negative views on them. Doubtless you were one of them.

Gingster

At the start of the pandemic, I saw a young female scientist being interviewed on tv. She had been working in the Wuhan laboratory at the time of the outbreak.

She was 100 % certain that the virus had leaked from there. She escaped to the Uk as she was being ‘hushed up’ and wanted to tell her truth. Never been heard of since,

And we think the Russians are bad …..

At the start of the pandemic, I saw a young female scientist being interviewed on tv. She had been working in the Wuhan laboratory at the time of the outbreak.

She was 100 % certain that the virus had leaked from there. She escaped to the Uk as she was being ‘hushed up’ and wanted to tell her truth. Never been heard of since,

tickingbird

Oh is it politically correct to call China out now? I thought we had to play nice and not say nasty things about that dreadful regime.

What they have done to the world with Covid is unforgivable and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it was deliberate.

Who do you imagine is controlling what you think or say?

Oh is it politically correct to call China out now? I thought we had to play nice and not say nasty things about that dreadful regime.

What they have done to the world with Covid is unforgivable and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it was deliberate.

The Chinese own much of the utilities up in the U.K. - we have allowed foreign ownership of so much here - sold to the highest bidder. Thanks Thatcher and all.

As others have said this suggestion has been swirling around since COVID first reached us. Unfortunately what is lacking is that absolutely firm incontrovertable data that will prove it beyond argument.

It is like a crime that has been committed, the police know who committed it, but just do not have enough evidence to stand up in court.

We say there is nothing we can do. What we can do is try and avoid buying Chinese goods. Yes, they are ubiquitous, yes the alternatives may be more expensive, but if everyone didn't buy a Chinese product once a month - and there are 65 million of us - that must be worth at least one Evergiven worth of goods every year.

Unless there's a new development in the form of fresh evidence and/or actual proof, why should it be front page news? It's not news at all.

Pepper59

Ive never believed the virus was a natural one. I try not to buy Chinese goods and I also do not understand why so many supported that farce of a winter olympics. I have nothing against ordinary Chinese people, but I won't forget those who bestowed this hell upon us. Im doing my own sanctions.

I didn’t watch any Winter Olympics to be honest or read about it what was farcical about it ?

The only question in my mind is was it deliberate or did it escape by accident ? Thinning out the older members of the community? Did it exceed their wildest dreams ? Nothing we can do about it and it will happen again,too. Maybe Russia next time, seems to be the warfare of the future.

Ive never believed the virus was a natural one. I try not to buy Chinese goods and I also do not understand why so many supported that farce of a winter olympics. I have nothing against ordinary Chinese people, but I won't forget those who bestowed this hell upon us. Im doing my own sanctions.

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Above, a link to a thread from last year. There was an interesting series of two or three programmes on Channel 4

I’ve always thought this was the case, but without any proof. I just thought the whole way the Chinese acted stank right from the beginning. Neither did I believe the whole wet market idea, which was put out by the Chinese. How absolutely coincidental, the very wet market out of thousands of them up and down the country, that just happened to be in the very city where there were, or are, two massive laboratories researching guess what? Coronavirus’s and bats!

I read some time ago that it was decided that the virus had leaked from a laboratory. I had been ranting about China being responsible throughout the world for millions of deaths, loss of income, mental health issues and childhood suffering, but no-one seems to have held them accountable. They did not contain the virus or even admit that it could pass from person to person until it was much too late. It's truly shocking the suffering they have caused.

There was a poster on here who said this was all very, very worrying and I agreed with her on all this but she was told she was scaremongering.

China has been quietly buying up America’s national debt for many years. The US can’t afford to upset them.

www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/040115/reasons-why-china-buys-us-treasury-bonds.asp