Ukraine

GrannyGravy
Give a big thank you to your son from me and my family.

Kapitan

More pathetic garbage about Brexit being the result of Russian interference.

Of course it was not for many Leave voters- but it was for Putin, for sure. Clear as a bell. He had to divide Europe.

Dom Cummings spent several years in Russia in some mystery job before returning to influence the tories.

I wonder why those who insist that Russia did not effect the EU referendum explain why RT relentlessly promoted Farage, why Facebook was bombarded with pro-Leave messages originating in Russia on 23rd June 2016, and who gave Arron Banks the £8 million+ to promote leave. Banks has a Russian wife. Dominic Cummings spent three years in Russia doing what exactly?

Whitewavemark2

Kapitan

More pathetic garbage about Brexit being the result of Russian interference.

There is question that Putin interfered with Brexit.

That should read..”there is NO. question that Putin interfered with the Brexit referendum”

Tories financed by ‘Putin’s mates for decades’ and Russia did influence UK votes, Dominic Cummings claims

inews.co.uk/news/politics/tories-financed-putin-mates-russia-influence-uk-votes-dominic-cummings-claims-1480807

Kapitan

More pathetic garbage about Brexit being the result of Russian interference.

There is question that Putin interfered with Brexit.

CNN reporting that Russian troops are on the ground at Kyiv airport.

Kapitan

More pathetic garbage about Brexit being the result of Russian interference.

So, did Russia ultimately shape the outcome of the Brexit referendum? Given that the result was exceptionally close, and that if just one in fifty voters had felt differently when they entered the polling booth on June 23, 2016, the result would have been different, the Kremlin operation could well have tipped the balance

www.csis.org/blogs/brexit-bits-bobs-and-blogs/did-russia-influence-brexit

I can only hope Putin is taken out internally.

"Our AC has always said that he has had a wonderful fulfilling career and knew what they signed up for, they take the peace keeping with the wars. "

yes and I second that grannygravy, my dd was a major married to a captain, now civilians. It is the career they chose and what they were paid to do

GrannyGravy13

I would like to send a virtual hug to all GN posters who have family in our Armed Forces.

They are some of, if not the best trained and disciplined forces in the world. They will do whatever is asked of them.

Our AC has always said that he has had a wonderful fulfilling career and knew what they signed up for, they take the peace keeping with the wars.

Please spare a thought for us in these most difficult days…

Absolutely. And those calling for war are rarely the ones whose sons and daughters will be called upon to risk their lives for it. Yes, they know what they signed up for - but it doesn't stop the worry and heartache for their families.

More pathetic garbage about Brexit being the result of Russian interference.

a russian motorised platoon has surrendered, they were not told that they had been sent in to kill ukranians

My friend said this morning, who'd have though the pandemic was the least of our worries

Iam 64 I agree with your post.
I'm really frightened to think that we might be facing another '38 with another power-hungry megalomaniac.
The only hope is that Russia and China end up falling out and undermining eachother. Then they can fight as much as they want.

chernobyl area is the route to kyev

maddyone

Putin has warned the west that if we interfere we can expect greater consequences than we have ever faced in history. He means he will use nuclear weapons.

That was my first thought but they are now taking over Chernobyl so I wonder if, in some way, he has plans there.

Very worrying times, Russia and China together,(and I’m sure they are in this together)put the world in a very precarious position.

Silverlining48, I agree about the 50’s 60’s fear of Russia. It’s also frighteningly reminiscent of 1938, with a deranged megalomaniac in charge of a country . I agree with other posters that he wants to recreate the old ussr.

Russian interference has unfortunately destabilised the U.K. & made us weaker. That is clear - so these are definite long term aims.

London is known as the laundry in certain parts of Russia. The government really need to clear out all the dirty money from the U.K. now (they won’t though.)

Terrible times. I’m not sure, despite the megalomania, that invading a country belonging to NATO would make much sense for Putin, whereas invading Ukraine does.

I see some (150?) senior Russian officials have publicly opposed the invasion. Brave people - it must put their freedom and lives at some risk to do that.

This is taking me back to the 50s /60s when we lived in fear of the USSR. The Cold War , Cuba, those were frightening times.

*Maddyone" I also am sure Ukraine is only the first of Putin's goals. He wants to regain the USSR and will go after those countries bordering Ukraine. As they are in NATO the west will become involved which is very worrying.
Putin has been planning this for a long time and has built up resources to keep Russia going while he tries to take over other countries.

news.sky.com/story/ukraine-russia-crisis-donald-trump-praises-putins-aggression-as-wonderful-and-genius-12549418

DaisyAnne

vegansrock

I haven't seen the “left wing blaming Ukraine” - where is the evidence? I see Farage and Trump praising Putin.

Where?

news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-encourages-far-right-french-presidential-candidate-eric-zemmour-to-hold-firm-and-stay-courageous-12542496

leftfootforward.org/2022/02/totally-deluded-arron-banks-and-nigel-farage-blame-the-eu-over-putins-aggression/